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Watch live or on demand at home or on the go. Stream fox Sports on Fox 1. Download the app today. Freaking born ready punk and. All right, so we're going to do a quick follow up on the scammer thing. Scammer, ebay scammer. If you're not familiar, Steven T. They were replacing patches. Oh, you know what, I got to find out. By the way, replacing jerseys. Don't say patches anymore. People did not like you saying jersey when it's not a patch. Patch when it's a jersey. Jersey is one color. Wait, oh really? Yes. That's a absolutely nothing thing. But the amount of comments that said me and you both like that's a patch. auto like, hey guys, here's an idea. People are committing fraud. Just shut up and say in your basement. Matt. Yu-Gi-Oh I'm sorry, the swatch of clothing. Can't use the word swatch. Can't say swatch. Okay. Is Tennessee. I believe Tennessee is a one party consent state. I think it is. So Tennessee is. But it also depends on. I know this because I got served that thing from Georgia a few years ago. Yu-Gi-Oh Is Maryland. I'm going to say Maryland's two party. You think so? Maryland doesn't even have rules. Baltimore is in Maryland. Oh God, I would never go there. No, Maryland is an all party consent. Okay. So we just have to make sure. So if you're recording a private phone conversation in Maryland, everyone involved generally must consent before it's legal. Okay. So we should let another on the show. Okay. Okay, we're good. Okay. So we're gonna call Steven. I want to talk to this clown and see if he's gonna admit to any of this. I found out some more information. Apparently one of the other usernames, which, by the way, here's the major update on this. We just searched all four of the usernames on ebay we talked about the last few weeks. They're all, as of right now, all removed from ebay. Deactivated, it looks like. Deactivated. Removed. Excellent. I'm not saying they're not gonna be back. Scum like this doesn't go away. Could you step on it once? But it's a step in the right direction at least. Number two, which cameras to look at for, like, important statements. That one. Number two, the amount of people who have been worked up about this and have messaged me privately like, dude, you know, we've been talking about this for years. Guess what? Some of us do know that you have been talking about this for years. No one does. Nobody is aware of this. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh On the greater, like, larger sense. Yu-Gi-Oh What percentage of people would you say have come in the hobby in the last six years since COVID that are here today? I think it's the majority of people. Yu-Gi-Oh I would say like, 60, 70%. Yu-Gi-Oh So let's say. Let's go low and say it's 40% of people. Fine. How about 5? So, like, all the guys were like, hey, in 2008, we talked to. I am glad we tried to give their flowers and credit when we did this. I've tried to read every time, like, this is not an original story. However, we happen to have a bigger microphone than these people do. It's not a shot of you. Were they saying things like they didn't like that? We were. It was like, dude, this is old news. We talked about this 15 years ago. Hey, here's the link I shared. Like, literally, guys and I was. Some of the guys messaged me, and I went back and forth with four different people about this who had been posting stuff in blowout years ago or been making comments to. Like, even Dan the Cardman years ago. They'd made comments inward to other people. That's great, but when you shout in an empty frigging wood like the woods, no one cares. If no one hears it, it doesn't mean anything. Yu-Gi-Oh well, if a tree falls in the woods and a bear poops himself and the bear has Covid. Yes. So that's. That's essential. Essentially, that's what Jesse's like. No, but I just mean I'M glad people did the work. I'm not saying we did the work. We just happen to have a bigger platform than most and we happen to have direct contact to ebay a little bit which is why these things got removed. I'm not trying to belittle you, but you can save the stupid comment. I am glad the work was done. But the amount of people in the comments on the podcast, the social posts, the YouTube videos, we get it. This isn't an SCN original story that needs to come out. I would say there's very few things that are completely original. I think it's just a matter analogy was different interpretations. Last time somebody accused a bear having Covid. You never let me finish that part. But it's ultimately I think people would be happy. Correct. I mean if we're getting. If we're most people rid of it and it's like. Like you said, they'll probably come back in one form or fashion. Sure. But after this phone call maybe not so death in them. That's well. Stephen T. Ism Fear of COVID Fear of COVID Steven T. Is the guy who's been running all these accounts. Nancy after confirmed with two people was apparently his girlfriend. I don't know. Still is but was the girlfriend at the time. That's the Nancy Yu-Gi-Oh Screen name. Okay. He. Here's the other thing. Very heavily involved in their local church and like youth pastor stuff. Oh good. Which Yu-Gi-Oh I I am gonna continue to pursue. I think one of the people was like I'm gonna get the name because he's actually called. I was like I have no problem calling. If you're gonna put yourself out there as like a community leader. Yu-Gi-Oh Piece of crap. I have no problem. So but Yu-Gi-Oh I think it's only fair that we call the guy I just ask where how did we confirm that this person is this username? Addresses were checked, addresses were Certified But this and this stuff has been posted for years. Going the earliest post I found was from 2016 that had usernames, physical addresses, confirmed phone numbers and his name. I then cross referenced that this well this week two or three days ago with a mutual friend of ours who has helped. I think you know I'm talking. I don't want to say his name here. Who has helped us get information like this in the past. Oh okay. Legally. But they are. They are connected in a very legal way. So it's been helpful. Yu-Gi-Oh they confirmed the information as well. So that's where I got this information confirmed from. And that's where this phone number is from. Okay, so I think we just call him. I don't think he's going to answer. He's also scrubbed his social media quite a bit. It looks like people have told me so. But Yu-Gi-Oh I think it's worth calling him and seeing what he says. All right, Be great. You're like, actually, he's on the phone right now. Well, don't. When he answers, I'm gonna let you, of course, lead this because I, I, you are the one with all the information. I would just ask. Started off with, hey, man, just so you know, we're being recorded. Hey, Stephen. This is Mike and Jesse. Sports cards Nonsense. We're recording a podcast live. You're live to tape. Yu-Gi-Oh live to tape is how I've heard it said in the past. Live to tape. You're live to tape. All right. So they call that in the biz. I have butterflies. A little jittery. I'm not trying to do this in person. Well, when is the last time you had a Celsius? Have you been. I've been good. That could be part of it. All right, here we go. It'll be fine. I said cracker barrel. If you record your name and reason for calling, I'll see if this person is available. Mike and Jesse from the sports card nonsense podcast. The reason for the. They want the reason as well. We want to see if you're a scamming scumbag. Don't know. Or a good person. Or a good person. There you go. That's fair. Now you just wait. Is it ring? Does it ring or anything? This is how. Please stay on the line. Is this on your end or his? This is on his end, but this is how my phone does this as well. So is this because he knows people are calling him? It's like when an unknown number is calling. Is this an Android thing? Yu-Gi-Oh it's like screening calls. Really? I have the same. It's. Oh, I thought that was it for a sec. Hello? Hang on. He's not there, so you'll actually hear it. I'm sorry, this person is not available. If you would like to leave an additional message, please reply after the tone. I think we're good. We said enough. We've said enough. Now they call back. Steven, phone number now. Yu-Gi-Oh what's the deal with that? Are you allowed. Brendan, look into the legality of giving out somebody's home address and phone number, please. You're a part time lawyer, right? Look it up. Just chatgpt and we'll have it on record that you told us it was okay. Okay. one-of-one so that's the update, though. Like, a number of accounts have come down. Fantastic. There's obviously more work to be done. Massive big picture, though. Something we have not talked about nearly as much. Tops and Panini. When you're putting out numbered patch cards, numbered jersey cards, or autographs. Numbered autographs. Any. Any card that is numbered that has an auto, a jersey piece, a bat piece, whatever, it might be a relic. Not just regular serial numbered stuff, but if it has an auto or a game, used item or piece of something on it, a database. Well, Upper Deck has been doing that for a while, haven't they? Upper Deck does it with the cup. Rookie autos that come in the patch, the big RPAs. Okay, but I'm saying every card. Yu-Gi-Oh because here's how you go crazy next level with all of this stuff. Then when stuff goes through ebay authentication, part of their authentication is they have direct access to the database. Hey, Mike. Madonna 2007. Upper Deck, jersey card. 12 of 99. Boom. Same picture. Same picture, done. PSA. And here's another thing, by the way, that people in the hobby take for granted. I wonder if you know this, when you send a jersey card to PSA and it comes back a PSA 7 because it's a thick card, has dinged up corners, they do not authenticate the jersey card, the piece of jersey. They are simply grading the condition of the card. I just got a new missed call from him. Call. Oh, we missed him. Come on. Now it's on. Do not disturb. Stevie. A few of these in the past. All right, let's try this again. We have to call him back again now. Yu-Gi-Oh Okay, I have to leave another message. Man, I was on a roll about the PSA has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system. Okay, hang up. Hang on. We'll do it. We'll do. We'll do one more here. I'm going to. I'm going to take off the do not disturb. I thought we had him. Thought we had. Are we calling him back or is that it? Oh, he tried to call it the exact same time we were calling it. Looks like. Oh, call back. Oh, does he leave a voicemail? No. If he calls again, we'll know. All right, I'm calling. Oh, you're calling back. Okay. Be Gray's like actually the wrong number. I don't send. Forward it to an automated voice. All right, well, I've got it off of the. So maybe I'll call back. Okay, I'd like to talk to him. I mean that genuinely too. We never like throw crap at people and don't give them a chance to speak. So more than welcome to call anytime. Yu-Gi-Oh when PSA grades a card like that, they don't authenticate the jersey piece because how could they? How do they know what jersey piece is in the card? Yu-Gi-Oh that's fair. So if tops did this originally though again. EBay. EBay authentication. Cool. Checks the serial number it sold goes through. Same thing with PSA. 2 seconds, quick tap into the database, make sure the patches line up. It is then now an authentic patch from psa from Beckett, from sgc. All the grading companies should do that. A little bit more work but I think you could eliminate 99.9% of this. Well we've been talking about it for 85 of it long time that one of the things that grows this hobby is data. Just simple data. If you have more of it, it means more people can get involved. And if it's like oh well if we need to authenticate a piece of. We can't do it without the data. We can't do it without the images or whatever the case. So if, Yu-Gi-Oh if they can do any of that, I think that'd be amazing. Like I really do think that would be game changing. And especially we get all three of those companies on board. Well get tops and Fanatics on board. Upper Deck. All the Panini, all the companies who make the card, manufacture it. Sure be give ebay access to that database so that people and just in general by the way should just be something anybody can sign into. Look at the card before you buy it real quick and then ask of grading companies. Hey, now that we're giving you the database to if it is a serial numbered autograph or game use piece of any kind. Yu-Gi-Oh Make that part of your authentication process. I think it'd be amazing. Wonder the difficulty level for something like that just because it's like we already have. There's already people who are like hey, why isn't this product out yet? You know, Topps obviously has done it much better. Panini was bad when it came to that department of getting product out on time. So you add an extra layer of security and I think you just delay things even more. I guess just take pictures of the uncut sheets of some of the cards. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't know. I think it'd be worth it, but I think that's an important thing. Topic number two. I know Joe's coming. Was it about Panini selling ties now Neckties. I saw this. I saw a piece of social media content and then I went out and confirmed it just now. You can buy Panini website. You can go and buy a Panini tie. A necktie. Necktie. $135. Is it autographed by Michael Jordan? Don't worry, you can buy up to five. There is a limit at five. You can't buy more than five. You have images of this. Don't think you can buy more than five. You can't buy more than five. Five is the max amount of silk ties that you can buy. Vitaliano pure silk. Did you want that one in yellow? Because maybe people still wear. I got you a yellow tie, right? What's on? I don't even know what's on it. I remember the. It's like the little Panini logo. It's like the knight with a jousting stick. I don't know what. Something like that. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't. This is Panini America. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh It's on the same limited edition Vital Italiano and Panini Pure Select. That's a. You can't get more than five at a time, people. I've never spent more than, like, 10 bucks on a tie in my life. I don't even wear them anymore. You gotta go knit ties. Okay. Thank you for sharing. It was excellent. Can I do one other quick thing? Then we get Joe on here, please? Joe is our football guy, by the way. An actual football. We didn't actually say that there was a football guy coming on today. We got a football guy. Come. Joe's coming on and Steven might come back. If Stephen calls back, we're putting him on immediately. I'm friends with this guy. Off air, Darren Ravel stinks. Like, dude. Darren Ravel last year was the official media partner of the national. Him and Collect with no vowels this year, just this whole big thing of like, the oh, Fanatics Fest could just kill the national anytime they want. Like, are people dumb enough to believe that or is that just a clickbait thing? Oh, did he say this? Yes. It was the whole thing he put out. Oh, I didn't see that. Yu-Gi-Oh I just like, Darren, come on. Isn't he better than clickbait crap? And he's not. I don't think he's stupid enough to believe it. Because he's not a dumb person. No, he may say dumb things. He's not a dumb guy. What are we doing here? Collect. So kind of pivoted from their whole. Yu-Gi-Oh they're also out. Where News. And now it's not news. Now they're connecting companies and collectibles. I don't what happened to the millions that were raised? See, that's my question is like, there was investment money that went in for this news media. I think it's more of like, hey, guys, we found we're not really making a lot of headway in the news media portion of this, so we're going to pivot and just do something that does make money, or at least they're hoping it does. So. Okay, that was it. Be better, Darren. National's not going away. Are you nuts? People freaking love it. These are from experts, by the way. Neither one of these are going away. But this, this is a stupid narrative. People are trying to play this war against each other. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh I think it's just dumb. I think it's for clicks, like you said. Joe's here, by the way. All right, let him. Hey, Joe. Joe's younger than I thought. Joe has an older voice. All right, well, I'm only slightly younger than you guys. That's a young voice. That's a young, young voice if I've ever heard. That's like a 46 year old, energetic, youthful, young voice, though. That's fine. Save for the show. I mean, okay, we're technically. Brendan looks like Father Time and Joe looks like a kid. I don't know what the hell's going on here anymore. Brendan alone looks great. It's a great beard. I. I get it. Yu-Gi-Oh everybody's got solid beards. It's almost as if it's a bowl cut, but it's styled on top, is what I'm concerned about. Brendan, what are the side of your head. Brendan, do not mess with your hair. You're fine. You look fine. Did you see this? Do not let him get in your head. This is what he does. You're bringing hats to the National. Leave him alone. Literally just got a haircut. And Brendan, your hair looks great. You pay for it. I think it looks great. Did your wife cut your hair? He's messing with you, okay? If she does one time during COVID it wasn't this great. Brandon. Brendan, you're letting him in. You gotta block him. I'm just saying, don't let him in. I'm just saying, you pay for something like that, it leaves me asking questions. Joe, how are you? I'm gonna help you bring Joe. Bartel is here. This is all live, right? We haven't stopped. Please keep all of us. Keep it on. It's all we're having fun. It's national week. Who cares? National week. Anything goes on. National. First national. It's your first. Joe, are you going to the national? Yes. Yu-Gi-Oh I'll be there. I think TBD on what day? But certainly Friday and Saturday. I'll be there. Looking forward to see you guys and seeing all the stuff that's going on for the. For the week. Joe, who are you? Give people you actually have an impressive resume. Give people your credentials, who you are. Yu-Gi-Oh I think impressive probably is a bit too strong of a word, but I've been. I've been in the fantasy sports industry now 10 years. An NFL editor for 10 years of them as well too was I was a credentialed NFL draft reporter the past two years. The draft in Green Bay and Pittsburgh as well too. I have a SiriusXM show now. I think we do four times a week during this July August period. Typically when football season comes back down, we'll get to Friday and Saturday like in the September through February range. I hosted my own solo show on Sirius XM as well too. Really talking fantasy sports. But football's been my bread and butter now all of last year as well too on channel 87. So I mean my, my favorite. My favorite thing really is just talking sports with people. I also really love cards, I guess. Unfortunately, Mike, fortunately, Jesse, I am a major Pokemon guy. I mean, when I talk about like what I grew up in, that was Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh Gi. Oh, I would watch the anime. Be clear, people. He's like 30 or so. He doesn't know anything. I Goldin collect sports cards in the same way. It was very easy for mom and dad to go get a pack of Pokemon cards. Now you can't do that whatsoever. So brag there about his parents being together. By the way, noticed that things as. As other things. Are your parents still together, Joe? Yes. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh All I heard there is hey, Geo and Mark. Nice job. That's what I heard there. Me and Jesse's father. Dads. Thank yu-gi-oh. Where. Where are you located? He's in Midwest Mass. In Wisconsin. Yu-Gi-Oh Don't intend to move at all. Yu-Gi-Oh Wisconsin. Love the cold and the summer. Do you know John. Do you know John Harden? Happy John? I have heard him referenced in the show. I've been a longtime listener really since you guys. Even during the Giannis days, I've been. Yes, we got a callb I. I am aware of Happy John. I am the antithesis of that. The exact opposite. He's very mad. I'M pessimistic Joe. Wisconsin sports has taught me the worst. So Jacob Misrowski, his arm is going to fall off probably next 12 months, I would assume. Good. You know, Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback of all time, according to me. Not Mike, of course, but he Goldin be because we have bad defense, bad referee calls, things like that. So I don't know how happy John could be. Happy John of being Wisconsin sports fan, because I've been tortured my whole life. It feels like you guys are going to get together right in the same town. Well, John can't come to the National. Well, you got to go to him because he did break this dude. Happy John, still maintaining his happiness. Fell down some stairs or something. Slipped and he felt he was down like 50 stairs. Destroyed, right? Yu-Gi-Oh just like shattered something in his leg and he had to climb up like 50 stairs and then like across like, I don't know how many hundred yards. We should send a Wisconsin. How do I get a hold of the Badgers? It'd be fun to send a player to his house, like, cheer him up. Yu-Gi-Oh So Joe, though, pessimistic Joe. Well, they have strippograms. I'm talking like a footballogram. I want a football guy to jump out of a cake. Okay, well, John's happily married. I'm not, I'm not trying to send a woman. You would do it if he wasn't, though. No, I don't. I'm not. Okay. I'm just saying. Then why are we talking? I'd like to send a football player to his house. Okay, so send a football player who will do a dance or something. Just say hello. All right, so Joe, you focus on fantasy, which again, you're. You're one of the few people to often when we've had experts in fields of sports on. They're not really card guys. And this chair doesn't slide. And it makes it difficult to make the connection because we have to spend time explaining like, hey, there's care. So since you know both worlds, though, I think oftentimes there is carryover from fantasy sports is very equivalent. This guy does great in fantasy. This guy has a great hobby, has great hobby value. Have you seen that to be true from your side in general? 100. I think the difference for us in the fantasy community is the running backs, receivers, tight ends, the skill position guys probably have a bigger rise. You know, we talk about adp, average draft position, fantasy drafts, and I think that makes a bigger difference as opposed to right now, the football market being Entirely quarterback driven, which I understand the premise for it. You know, we have flagship coming out relatively soon. I don't own two houses. I don't own two Batman suits. I'm sorry, whatever suit you own, Jesse. I don't own Buzz Lightyear suits. I have two Buzz Lightyear suits. I don't come from money in the same way that you guys do. So I always have to kind of speculate with like the penny stock guys. Like I don't mind going after the position players and I do think the fantasy sports industry, it's a lot easier to correlate those. Then let's just go and target the old, old, old vet quarterbacks that are already thousand dollars. Like I like trying to find the penny stock equivalent of these players in fantasy and I think in the card market too. Oh Yu-Gi-Oh So you're looking like constantly looking for new people. Not necessarily like a cheaper card or like an off brand card or something like that of that, that player. Yu-Gi-Oh I mean I, I, I like to speculate and I like, for a long time I was speculating on defensive players mainly to prove you guys wrong. That turned to be entirely incorrect. I think I wasted probably hundreds of dollars. That, and that matters to me. Again, to you guys who both, you know, own suits and houses, that's fantastic. Only one person here owns multiple houses. What is happening here? Technically my home is two homes, so God, you could say I don't know how many houses Jesse owns. I just assume Mike owns multiple houses. So that's, that's the difference there. I don't know. Mike, do you know? I, I don't think he's ever talked about that. This is embarrassing. We'll save it for another episode. So Joe, at this point, obviously skill position players are the ones that matter most for our audience. I don't think there's often times where like a kicker performing outstandingly on a fantasy league is going to, or even a quarterback, by the way. Like how often is a quarterback like in our world, top 50 relevant hobby guys right now are quarterbacks. When is the first. Do you have a mock draft in front of you or memorize at this point? I'm sure you do, 100%. Who is, I actually don't even know. Is Josh Allen the first quarterback in the, like in a, in a draft? Yes. So this is so funny. It's, it's a long standing argument within the fantasy sports community. Actually. I was on James White, you know, the running back for the Patriots. I was on his podcast last year debating this exact same Thing he was saying, I'm going to take James. James White was saying, I'll take Josh Allen one, one overall. And I'm like, I don't. You don't really have to do that in the fantasy sports world. He's like, well, Josh Allen's really good. He's a really consistent player. That's all true. Typically in your fantasy leagues, especially Redraft, it's more like the second or third round. So let's just say the first 30 picks, Josh Allen go off the board. Then it's Lamar Jackson. You'll see Joe Burrow, you'll see Jaden Daniels. So the correlation, the guys that you're talking about, the ones that we might want to own their cards for, it's not too dissimilar from a fancy perspective, but the order of importance matters a lot more. And also how you want to build your fantasy roster is a little bit different as too. It's. It's why I love listening you guys, because you talk about sports a certain way that I don't always view. But I do think there's a Venn diagram. There's at least some circles that connect with the fantasy sports 11 diagrams. I was gonna say it's twice. I'm very excited about this point real quick and I'll leave it alone. I promise to prove that point, though. Jackson Dart is the hottest rookie in football right now. I know he's not a rookie this year, but the product coming out as a rookie, Jackson Dart, is he even drafted in what percentage of leagues he even drafted in? He would be drafted in probably 100 of leagues. He's normally like quarterback 13. So the guys drafted around him, we'd be like Brock Purdy, Patrick Mahomes, ironically round, what are we talking? Yu-Gi-Oh like ninth, tenth round. I would say you. You'd say that he's a little bit lower than some of the top guys, for sure. Okay. How much of this is based off of pure, like historical point systems and you know, what you've seen them do in the past versus your fandom of that player? Because I feel like that's when I. When I first got into it the first year I did a fantasy league, I remember, I think I came. I either one-of-one or came in second place. And guys were like, why? He doesn't even like, care all that much about it. And it was like I based it all off of the data in nothing to do with a fandom. And that's where most people are basing theirs. I agree. Yu-Gi-Oh My wife would say that's beginner's luck. So kudos to you, Jesse. Thank you. I lost the next year. Wasn't. Wasn't probably successful, right? No, it was, it was a Fleer Thank you. Yu-Gi-Oh I mean that's one of those things that we talk about all the time. If you're in a draft, like again, I'm based in Mass. Wisconsin, so you're in a draft. There'll be upwards of six Wisconsin fans in there. I probably one-of-one be able to draft Jordan Love relatively late. Like where he goes. I probably don't get Matthew Goldin who's probably one of my favorite sleeper fancy targets this year, in the same sort of degree. So it does matter. I think knowing your audience, your league member, typically you're playing in 10 team leagues or 12 team leagues, you could kind of identify who the fans are. But to me it's, it is all data and analytical driven and I think that's where I go back to the speculation of certain guys that I think will do better. You can kind of see some of the data in there. I think my big thing this year is talking about how the coaching changes are going to matter far more than people are acknowledging right now. There's far too many, and I'll, I'll use the phrase that you guys use, there's far too many dumb people coaching in the NFL. I know, I know they're far smarter than me, but far too many dumb people making decisions that I think will hinder a fancy performance and then I think a byproduct kind of hinder the value of certain players that we're not discussing enough. So like I, I truly believe coaching is going to make a major difference this year. It's not being talked about. So give me. Obviously though, that is like the main difference between fantasy and card collecting because there's going to be so many people out there who would still value a player because of the fandom because of the hype around them as opposed to how they might actually perform now, that's still going to account for a big part of it. If they suck, then that's also going to hurt them. But I think there's still going to be players out there that because they are likable or they did something in the past and even though they may not be projected to do much in the future, they would still have a card collector out there for them, maybe not a draft pick for them. Yu-Gi-Oh the big difference for me, you mentioned hype. I don't know, maybe you guys could tell me. I'm wrong to me, hype is correlated in wins and losses. You can have a quarterback not do very well, but if the team's winning, they'll still kind of rise incrementally. Think back to Daniel Jones at early portions Last year the Colts were a really hot team. You saw Daniel Jones's card market go up substantially and he gets hurt. Of course the Colts fall down. The wins and losses don't matter whatsoever. In fantasy if Aaron Rodgers ends up going 4 and 13 for the Steelers this year. Benzema being a top 12 quarterback, that's a major one-of-one In my environment, my industry for you guys might not make a major difference because you want Aaron Rodgers to kind of compete, make the playoffs, maybe make one more run for Zebra Bowl. So that's the difference I see in fantasy. Yu-Gi-Oh I will say it's hit and miss. Like Jalen hurts. I don't have the numbers in front of me over the last four seasons has to have one of the best one-of-one loss records in the league. They've been to a couple Zebra Bowls. He one-of-one a Zebra Bowl. Like his hobby value has been very average at best. Sam Darnold last year, I mean the hobby value went up but still nowhere near like a guy like Jackson Dart or any of the quarterbacks from 2024. So. So it's almost like if it's an established guy. Yu-Gi-Oh winning matters. Like if Roger somehow just gets to the playoffs with Pittsburgh, it's a big deal because it's like a legacy play. But if Jackson Dart or Shador Sanders comes out or Mendoza comes out, the team wins two games. But they have some impressive stats, huge for Hob. So I almost feel like the older you get, the more wins and losses matter, the less hype matters because we've seen it. But Yu-Gi-Oh some of those, I think they definitely correlate well. And I'm curious to Joe's take. I mean as someone who is into fantasy and also into cards, what have you seen has been like a good, I guess like a sweet spot as far as like oh well they're really popular here and in the card market. Oh, oh, that's a great question. I don't. I could tell it was. You know I remember you guys talked about Dak Prescott last year. I don't know if that would turn that as a disagreement or argument, but it was a good conversation. Maybe you guys could articulate what the difference of is that like I, I thought the Dak Prescott one was great because he's a top 10 quarterback fantasy wise has the numbers to more or less justify that as well, too. We have the national recognition of Dak Prescott being in the Cowboys, but also he's the face of X, Y and Z. Different brands, things like that. I don't know if there's a fancy equivalent. I do think Brock Purdy probably is one of those. The Niners, theoretically, they're third in the NFC west right now. The Rams are the prohibitive odds on favorite after the Miles Garrett trade. Theoretically, they're going to also sign Aaron Donald, too. I think the season's basically a rapper. You just give the Lombardi to the Rams because they're going to be that good this season. Then you have the Seahawks from last year as well too. But if the Niners are healthy, we know that Kyle Shanahan can make Brock Purdy function. There was a point in time where Brock Purdy was one of the top guys out there as well too. For a card market. I think that a player like C.J. stroud, who has not played very. I'm big on C.J. going forward. Stinker in the playoffs the past two years. Right. But like, I think the Texans defense is going to be probably one of the best we have seen over the past two decades. Like that's how dominant defense, if everyone's healthy, is going to be. And. And if the Texans defense does well, Stroud could do something like let's just say 26 touchdowns to five interceptions. That's not a great fantasy ratio. You wouldn't really be playing Stroud in your fancy leagues too often. That's a good enough one where maybe he has MVP conversation. He's in that discussion. The Texans in an AFC division outside of Jacksonville, not very good. Like I think you'd be seeing them as a perennial playoff team, but also a topper, like a top tier Zebra bowl team. Stroud's value rises in that same sort of way. And then conversely, Kyler Murray, now quarterback for the Vikings, who I've been buying, by the way, I've bought more Kyler Murray cards than any other quarterback I've bought this off season. Really? Yep. And I actually was, I was looking at this. His base Prizm PSA 10 was in the range of 25 to $30 prior to his season ending injury. Let's just say in I'm going to say October of last year, it's risen to about 45 right now. And I'm like, I'm buying Kyler Murray base prisons again. I have to play in the penny stock. You guys earned a whole different tax bracket. Very jaded about this, by the way. There's a real. Just, you know, I mean, I don't. I don't have multiple houses. If it helps, I'm somewhere in between you guys, I feel like. No, but you have. You have multiple. Multiple Buzz Lightyears. That is true. It's a smelly piece of sweatsuit equipment. I'm not sure what's. I clean it. I think Tyler Murray market's an interesting spot as well, too. If Kevin O' Connell kind of corrects his woes from JJ McCarthy last year. The Vikings are a team. They're like, I think 26th in Zebra bowl odds. Not a lot of people are giving cred. Patriots were in that same spot last year. Of course, Drake May took him to a long run. And of course the Seahawks kind of in that same spot, too. So I think that's where I go back to the coaching part of things. But there are still talented quarterbacks that could make a difference. In the case of Kyler Murray, you could probably draft him and I think end up getting a low in quarterback one at a relatively cheap rate in your leagues. Can I ask. Well, and I was just going to say. So I. While we were talking, I pulled up Brock Purdy, Kyler Murray, C.J. stroud and Dak Prescott. All of their PSA 10 silver Prizm cards. Okay. So I am very curious. You're going to get weird values, though. Well, well. And some of those guys are, too. I'm not going to go based on value. I'm going to base it on market cap. Because on some of these, the values way up. Yu-Gi-Oh because like Kyler, like 500 bucks still. So that. Hang on. Before I answer this question, I would like to know. Yes. Who of those four would you say is going to perform best? Or give me the four best in fantasy. Dak, Kyler. Dak Kyler, Brock and cj. Yes, Fantasy. Make sure. Yu-Gi-Oh Dak Prescott's gotta run away with us. 100% Dak, then Brock Purdy, and then it's probably Kyler and Stroud. Stroud being last. Interesting. Okay, so Dak Prescott is currently lowest in value at 200 for a PSA 10. Now, here's the thing. Silver for silver. Okay, so there's 1600 in the pop count. So that's why I want to talk about the market cap just being. What is the total amount of money invested into that? Based on that current value, it's $321,000. So at that value, he's actually second of the four. The next one, would we say After Dak, who would it be? Performance wise, probably Purdy. Purdy. So Purdy is actually going to be third. Stroud's ahead of him, right? Stroud is ahead of him because stroud is at 845,000 in market cap. Brock Purdy is third at 383. Kyler 104. Give me the pop on Kylo. That Kyler, that Kyler is. There's only 200. That's the thing. His card value is 520 bucks. What's the other values? Brock Purdy is almost just about $600. He's number one. Tyler's number two at 520. CJ is at 375 and then Dak is at 200. What's really interesting too is when you look at these, the only one that would look like from not, not based on performance but just based on hey, they are lower or their, their investment is lower. I would say Brock Purdy, he's the only one who has not really seen a big increase in price. Brock purdy and maybe C.J. stroud. Kyler Murray. How much is Purdy's card? Brock is at 596. I think C.J. stroud, your best investment based on here. And I'm going to put it up where Mike can see it. You're not going to be able to see it, but I'll at least show Mike here. So if you look at the graph on this right here, see how C.J. stroud is basically like he's not gone really anywhere over the last year. Brock Purdy, very similar where you look at his graph has not gone really anywhere over the last year. But Kyler Murray, he apparently there's a few others out there thinking the exact same thing as you. He went from $60 in December of 2025 to now selling at $520. So almost 10xing right there. I'm saying that $60 one out is very similar. Well, I mean look, I mean even if you didn't include that. Yu-Gi-Oh get rid of that one. What else you got? Look at this. So even without the 60, there's $81. 85. There was another 90 something. So Yu-Gi-Oh it wasn't that far off. So Yu-Gi-Oh I mean of all of them, it. Brock Purdy and CJ are the ones that you haven't already seen a huge increase in pricing. I would think those are probably going to be your best card investments, not necessarily fantasy investments except I guess DAC is for many people. Yu-Gi-Oh could I. There's some other running backs and receivers that I want to have this conversation. I understand the value of those guys. Sure not being very good but I found it fascinating and you know again I've been a long time listener to the show. We don't in the card industry talk about these guys nearly enough. I do wonder if there's a push from Topps to just have us be stream the biggest moments in Sports live on Fox 1. The biggest names, the biggest games, the biggest matchups. Watch live or catch up on your schedule at home or on the go. Never miss a moment. All on Fox one Stream now I see you. Fire and Ash is now streaming on Disney. It's the film critics are calling the best avatar yet that a true epic and completely jaw dropping. This is the only pure thing in this world. Return to Pandora on Disney plus. It will be an adventure for the whole family and watch the Oscar winning phenomenon at home. This is sick. Avatar, Fire and Ash now streaming on Disney plus rated PG13 more aware of the language and just talking about football players in general. Not just quarterback value per se but like here's these different guys. Omari and Hampton. The rookie running back from the Chargers last year hasn't ends up having an okay season right now he's being drafted as like a top 15 pick and fantasy. It's a lot different. I understand really you're not seeing him being valued nearly the same as Bijan Robinson, Jamir Gibbs, Christian McCaffrey, James Cook, Saquon Barkley. All those running backs are in that same range in terms of fantasy drafts. Omarion Hampton's right there. I think he's going to have actually the biggest difference among the top 16 fantasy picks right now at least up the ADP again the average draft value. And like I I love the the select Zebra parallels. You can get an Omari Hampton rookie right now from like 70 to 100 at the moment again ungraded because I know what we're doing with psa. Yu-Gi-Oh but like I I think that one Marian Hampton cards I believe are really really they have a good chance to go upwards to a certain degree. A couple years ago Jonathan Taylor, that's the jersey I have in the background. He ends up having the near MVP season Probably the first 14 weeks falls off a little bit but like you can have card value in this market from other positions outside of quarterbacks and I think Martin Hampton in a really good spot. Ashton Genti was the first running back draft in that same class last year. I don't know if I value Genti as much and I Think there's a lot of more premium cards relative to Warren Hampton. So like Hampton and Genti are almost in the same spot fantasy wise. But we need to talk about Martin Hampton a little bit more because I think his fantasy value, I'm. I'm really interested this year and I think it will affect the card market too. Do you have any receivers? It kind of fit that same bill of like hey, they play along like you expect the same put out but they have way less value. Yu-Gi-Oh in our, in our industry it's always like who is this year's Jackson Smith Najigba receiver that just goes nuclear that we weren't anticipating the year before was Pukinakua. Who is this year's Pukinakua? I kind of think it's Devonta Smith. So to your point Mike, the Jalen Hurts and the Eagles, you have A.J. brown now in New England. I actually think that's going to be awesome for Drake May and I think the Patriots offense is going to look a lot better. But there is no other major target in Philadelphia besides Devonta Smith. They did draft Kai Lemon. I think it was pick 22 this year. A really good slot receiver from USC. Well, Jalen Hurts does not do well throwing in the middle of the field like all the advanced rates would say he's much more a Pandora thrower. You think about the moon balls he throws to A.J. brown with Eagles. Devonta Smith can do that. My only concern with Devonta Smith is He's like sub 185 pounds. He's a little guy, really, really thin and if he ends up being more of a volume pass catcher the way JSM was last year, I get concerned about his health. So that's one of them. Otherwise the rookies and this is going to be tough because I know they're going to be priced a premium. But with both Cardinal Tate and Jordan Tyson, I know you guys are Nashville, right? Carnell Tate is the real deal. In my mind he is Cam Ward a whole lot better. And I think Colonel Tate's gonna be one of those that by the end of the year we're talking about of the rookie class which is just not very good unfortunately. You know this is gonna be a big push for tops. The rookie class is not very good football wise. Cardinal Tate might be one of the league like at the top of that market. I, I think he is going to be a top 20 receiver for most of his career in my opinion. I'll be honest with you. Here's the only good thing going there it's actually one of the points goes back to a point you made earlier. The other nice thing though about Tate know you again, he's not a quarterback and you have Cam Ward. If Tate's having a great season, it's because Cam Ward is so much of the hobby. Like the Titans are not this massive team with this unbelievable following. If anything, you're going to focus on Cam Ward. Tate may end up being a value, but that's a perfect example too. You said earlier about coaching, I actually like the coaching staff. They brought in Day Blue Ice an offensive coordinator I'm good with. I don't ever need him at the helm, but as an offensive coordinator I like it. And who's the, the guy from the Jets. Salah. Robert Salah. Yu-Gi-Oh I like him as a head coach. I actually and I, I was at a couple Titans games last year and I watch almost every time. I've kind of got invested in the Titans a little bit. Just from a fan standpoint, I think Cam Ward might end up being good if they have somewhat of a line in front of him and a couple weapons. So I'm glad to hear that about Tate. That might be an interesting one. Yu-Gi-Oh the offensive line for the Titans was one of the league worst last year. Yu-Gi-Oh that's so an easy correlation to bad quarterback plays, bad offensive line play. It's the same with Stroud. The Texans ended up proving their offensive line I think this offseason consequentially so it's why I'm pushing him. The I like D as an OC as well too. One of the values of having a good offensive coordinator that stunk as a head coach is you can keep them for multiple years. Sure. Right. Like my, my packers had Jeff Halfley as the defense corner of the past two years will end up being just good enough where he's now the head coach of the Dolphins. You want to have the good offensive coordinators, bad head coaches because they'll stick around long term. That's been a case in point for Andy Reid and the Chiefs defense coordinator for a long time now too. I, I, I don't like that Dable felt the need to dramatically overpay for Wandell Robinson and also bring Daniel Bellinger who is going to be tight ends too pro along with Gunner Helm for the Titans. Like I don't, I don't like when the departed coach is like Yu-Gi-Oh you know the players that were bad for my team, I need to have them now my, my concurrence team. But that, that makes Me a little bit nervous but I, I have all the faith in Cam Ward. I think he's gonna be really a good NFL quarterback and Cardinal Tate will make him better for sure. Basing it off of like the rookie quarterbacks for this year. Just looking at Mendoza, Simpson, Beck, I think those are like the three that ESPN was saying like have the top chances of performing well. Well where. Because I mean that's where a lot of money's going. What a. What a dumpster fire that tells you this year is for the hobby. Well, I mean like good God, the I. I mean Mendoza is the only one who's even going to see the field and he's in. He plays for the Raiders. It doesn't look like Simpson or well, who's the Cardinals current quarterback Jacoby Brissette just signed an extension a couple days ago that's like 34 years old. Though the Cardinals could and probably will turn to Carson Beck. In fact the I saw the Cardinals are not favorites for their first 13 games. I don't know about the look ahead lines all the time but like the expectation is the Cardinals will be at least a touchdown dog in half the games if not more to start the season. Like you would turn to your third round pick in Carson Beck at certain point but realistically they might have a top two top three selection and in this upcoming class there's gonna be a lot of really good quarterbacks. So I don't know how much bandwidth they give to Carson Beck. Your best case scenario Jesse is probably Tyler Schuck from last year with the Saints. He did not start the year as a starter or Spencer Rattler instead and ended up being that shuck comes on I want to say like week 8 or week 10. I'm not, I'm not positive where and does enough where the Saints don't feel like they need to draft a quarterback in this bad draft class but that's my issue. Like the totality of this 2026 rookie class. It's just not good. Like I like Mendoza a lot. It sounds like he might not start right away in favor of Kirk Cousins which is the right idea for the Raiders who are not gonna be a very good team this year. Mendoza can come on like week seven or week eight. Great. I mean like you'll have the bigger cards I would assume released at that point but Mendoza is already gonna be expensive as a number one overall pick. I would for for people that are cross sport into the into the card market that NBA class that had rise Ashe as the number one pick for the, the Hawks. That's, that's unfortunately going to be the equivalent I think for the NFL this year. That was like two years ago and then the year after was Wemby. So like the year before Wemby, I believe was Rise Ashe. No, no, hang on real quick. Wemby, then Richard Shay and then Cooper. Cooper was okay. Yu-Gi-Oh you're right. But on, on field at that point though, I think there's a number of NBA guys. Okay. We got a bunch of like good role players. Borderline All Stars out of it maybe. But Yu-Gi-Oh I don't think anybody's collecting anybody from that rookie class. The only thing with this rookie class is like inevitably every single year, whether it's a good draft class or not, there's always going to be a quarterback that gets pushed and hopefully there's two or three. But I mean they're going to patch auto quarterback. That makes me think Mendoza's pricing is going to go up simply because that's going to be the only guy anybody views as an option for increasing in value because of actual being able to play. But he was also the number one pick. But the difference is every other year you've had quarterback by committee, like before this. I'm not saying they've all like come out to be good. Most of them have stunned. In general, quarterbacks stink in the NFL. Like the statistics are. Yu-Gi-Oh However, every other year you've had a bunch of guys be like, oh, oh, could be something. Last year was kind of like that too though. Like Jackson Dart didn't do a whole lot. But you also had Sanders come out the end and then Tyler Shuck came on. But there's even less this year. Yu-Gi-Oh that's what's tough. And I mean you've had some. We've been spoiled like 24 it four guys are out of the gate. 23 again turned out to be crap. But Stroud coming out of the. It was unbelievable. Bryce Young was the number one pick. Richardson in future NFL MVP Will Levis was in that draft as well. So here's a question. This is not really something for Joe. Then what is the card? That is going to be our card comparison going forward. Is it the Refractor Topps Chrome Refractor, a PSA 10 because we've been doing Prizm Silvers for years and now we have to switch over. That's the. That is your baseline. That is going to be your flagship, not base card that we go to. Yes. That'll be interesting to see what kind of value people are giving to a refresh. Because, I mean, if you're like, these days, not. There's not a ton of value on a Refractor, whereas silvers in Prizm seem to. In my mind, it's like they hold more value than a Topps Chrome Refractor does. And I'm wondering if I'm the only one if that's wrong thinking or if we'll see those increasing in price to match something that you would have expected from a Prizm Silver. It'll be curious. All right, Joe and Jesse, here's a question for you. What is a Jackson Dart PSA 10 silver go for right now? A Jackson Jackson Dart Rookie PSA 10, Prizm Silver. Prizm Silver. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say like 700 based off the. The Kyler Murray price that we were talking about earlier in Stroud. Like 700, 750. Jeez. I was gonna say, like, based off of that. I was gonna say like 450. 650 to $700. Dear Lord. Yu-Gi-Oh That's crazy. So he is. He would be by far the lead of all of the ones we talked about. But now, Jackson Dart PSA Topps. Chrome Topps, Chrome Refractor. Oh, now, here's what's weird. You got a couple that don't really line up. And the Internet in this building stinks, by the way. Get over it, people. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh What does that go for? Okay, PSA Topps, which, by the way, way more common. You're getting a bunch of refractors all the time. Absolutely. I'm gonna say like 220. Joseph. Yu-Gi-Oh I was gonna go like 320. I'll put 100 more on it. 550. What? That just shows you brand loyalty, like the amount of money that's going there for a car that's more common. Yu-Gi-Oh I wonder if this has the pop. Well, that's where I go back to how important this year's class will be for tops. If it stinks as bad as it. I think it's going to. Or at least what the experts are going to say. How. How hard do you push? Or do we see a bit more like the. The Bowman NFL talked about more? Because next year's class, you got Arch Manning, but there's going to be probably four or five deep. There was a. I think it was two or three years ago. And Mike, you're much better at this than I am. But that was the year of Jason McCarthy, Michael Pennix, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Caleb Williams. You had five quarterbacks and Boneck six quarterbacks. In the first 12 that I think will happen next year. It's just that a lot of the guys that would have been possible first round consideration stuck around because the NIL money incentivizes them to go ahead just be a highly more paid than they would have in the NFL in college right now. So next year's class really, really looks good. I. I just think it ends up hurting this year's class which matters a whole lot for tops. Yu-Gi-Oh So guys are going to go back to the class they like. Like that's what's gonna. Because like some people will go to the Bowman best and the Bowman U product like the. The college stuff but not a lot. Most guys if you like pro. So then it's like all right, let me go buy whatever quarterback or player from 2025 is playing. Well let me go back to 2024. We have four bona fide superstar potential quarterbacks. Let me find the. And to your point earlier, maybe this is the year. Hey, Mendoza is the only guy who has a chance to be anything in the league but he's not starting. Let's go find the skill position guys and maybe this is the start on other quarters or speculate on other quarterbacks in different spots like Stroud, like Kyler Murray, things like that. That's. That's what I like to do. Again I'm in the penny stock range of stuff and I like to do that. It's fun to me to get the one-of-one as opposed to getting the 20 difference oftentimes with those. But I. That's. I think that's where the skill position guys come in. And again I'm a bit of fan of the show. I came with some trivia if you guys want to play along. Guy came with a game here. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Move over to Joe. If I hear Char Tory, former sponsors by the way new sponsor of SLAB stocks and freaking card Collector two. All these other losers. I said move over. Yu-Gi-Oh welcome. Way over by the way. Give me. I'm glad that you're getting business out of that. Out of the. Give me the last time either one of them said anything interesting on a show in their fricking life. Can't wait to see you this weekend. Ryan and tall guy. I don't remember his name. Tori. No, the guy from SLAP sucks. I don't know him. But it was just a joke. It's a joke, people. Some of these guys suck. Joe, not a funny way. I would like your. I would like your game. I want the trivia. Just real quick though. I do have one other question though of your listeners of like on your XM podcast. What's the name of the show? Do we get the name of the show? I don't know. Well, what are we doing here? Rotowire Fantasy Sports today on from 1 to 3pm Eastern Monday through Saturday. Yu-Gi-Oh And I'm on four days a week during this lead up. We call it fantasy draft season. So July and August is probably when you get the most listeners in the entirety of channel 87 because people want to have up to date information on how you do your fancy drafts and you have a lot of expert drafts as well as a part of as well too. So you can listen to those things. And I like the strategy conversation. I like the strategy for my financial part of things with the Cards. But but I like the strategy of when to draft players. Channel 87 Worldwire Fantasy sports Day. Well, and the only reason I'm asking is about your analytics is I'm curious outside of the U.S. what kind of listenership you get because football, of all the sports I feel like is probably the least popular of the major sports that we talk about outside the U.S. Yu-Gi-Oh it's great. I don't know those numbers. Brendan would also be able to tell you SiriusXM keeps it very tight to the chest what your viewership is and rightfully so. They can charge whatever they want for the advertisement, things like that. And I understand that premise. I think the football is growing. There's going to be, I think it's a league high international games this year and then they're going to add more next year. So each the next two years they're upping the amount of international games that have ever happened in the course of NFL season. I think your NFL fans would say that's going to be a detriment to the product. But if you're talking about the international value, it's going to make a major difference when you have just more and more places that can consume this content but also patch auto live, which we know is a lot more fun sometimes than watching it on your TV again maybe in my, you know, my place as opposed to the mansions that you guys have. All right, trivia time, let's hear it. All right, so Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price, both Notre Dame running backs were drafted in the first round. Yu-Gi-Oh Jeremiah Love go to the Cardinals that pick three J. Price at pick 32. We talked about the skill position play players. I think you're gonna see Jeremiah Love's value end up being one of the prominent cards at least to start when we see stuff released. I don't think the Cardinals will use him correctly. And I have no idea how the Seahawks will use Jadarian Price, who was pick 32 by default. They wanted to trade back, ended up not making a big. Goldin find a deal that made sense. They take him after Kenneth Walker leaves Kansas City. Two running backs selected from Notre Dame. That's the third time in the last 27 years that has happened. Mike. I don't know about Jesse, but. Mike. Yep. Can you think of the other two instances where two running backs from the same college were drafted in the first round of that year? First. Go ahead, Mike. Last. In the last from the year 2000, is that we said or what? What's the parameters? Yu-Gi-Oh I mean, it's the early. I'll give you. It's gonna give me the years. The early 2000s. Yu-Gi-Oh 2005 and 2008. 2005. My boy Larry Johnson was a running back then. 2005, one of the best fantasy running backs of all time, by the way. Larry Johnson, well, for about an hour and a half. I drafted the next year over LT when he set the record. Not so hot, man. Was 2005 Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown. Yes, that is one of them. Correct. Auburn. Auburns. Cadillac. Yu-Gi-Oh Auburn. Cadillac was the other. The other guy was a first round pick. So. So Ronnie Brown was taking number two overall to the Dolphins, Cadillac Williams, number five to the Buccaneers. So that is one of the two years. In 2008 the same thing happened as well where two running backs from the same college. Oh, McFadden. Yep. Yes. Good work and shush. He played for McFadden, went for Arkansas, was drafted by the Raiders, I believe. Is that right? Raiders? Yep. You were correct. Stream the biggest moments in Sports live on Fox 1. The biggest names, the biggest games, the biggest matchups. 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To be able to be a part of it, to bring it. I thought for sure this would be a complicated one. You always seem like you're just a baseball guy or not. Only baseball only. And man, I'm impressed. Baseball for breaking. That's always my bread and butter enjoyment of ripping. When I go to the national. If I'm ripping product, I want to rip football. And that was my breath like for years. I could go back and just do all the first round picks of every. Like it was a whole thing. Yu-Gi-Oh And I hate college now. I always have. So I've been jaded on College ever since 05 when I Goldin go to one. So, man, do you have another quiz? Got one for you about pervert stuff. Oh, do you? No. I mean I can. I can talk to Ray and Jesse about Pokemon stuff. I raid shining cards enough is my biggest issue. But I think that's a separate conversation for separate day. Well, we are going to talk about today. About Logan. Paul's got like this whole thing with these cards. Pokemon cards. Yu-Gi-Oh I realized as soon as I start talking about it, I can't. I can't talk on this podcast. I did want to. What was that? Was that a drum roll? Is that a drum roll? Please. I think that was my fault. My phone was just ringing. Oh. Oh, okay. Was that Steve? Was Steve. Colin, you don't think it was Steve? It was Happy John, actually. Surprised. I know. Heck of a guy. I was going to play and I cannot. Cannot find it. Oh, actually I can play it. Right. I feel like I should come up with a trivia question for this guy now. He put me to the test. Do you have one for him? It'll be perfect time while I'm doing this. Give me the rookie of the year in 2012. Hey, look who just popped up on my feet. I mean that we're talking like one of the most Winston's era. Embarrassing. James Winston was 2015 with Marcus Mariota. Yu-Gi-Oh All right. However, there was a great first in the class. I will give you a hint. In 2012, the first overall pick pick was the most highly rated quarterback prospect since Jonathan Elway. Oh, Cam Newton. Okay. Do me a favor. That's 2011. Turn around. Look at the jersey behind you. How could I forget? Yes. Andrew Luck. So Andrew Luck did not one-of-one rookie of the year, though. Nor did outstanding winner from that class, Russell Wilson. What? Ryan Tannehill, in that class also didn't one-of-one It was the other quarterback played in the NFC east his entire short lived career. He might have gone somewhere else. Robert Griffin Yu-Gi-Oh Yes. RG3. RG3. I was about to. So why is she giving me a show? What you just said, you wonder why. You wonder why he doesn't own multiple houses, Stuff like that. I say 2012. His first response, Jameis Winston. Let me just play. Yu-Gi-Oh You don't need to see this reel. I just need you to hear the audio. This is. I was listening to this and what you just said. Here we go. Is he gonna hear it? Dude, I can name every player on my favorite team. Dude, I can name every player. What's that? No, I never played the game myself, but I can name all the players. I can even name all the players on the practice squad. I'm such a big fan and that makes me cool. And man. Yu-Gi-Oh I could pretty much name. Yu-Gi-Oh I could pretty much name every play that they got cooked up this season when they go up against their competitors. I'm not gonna miss a game because I'm such a big fan and that makes me cool. In. In an alpha and manly and beard. Buffalo wings, which is for dudes. Every time, like you make fun of us nerds talking about Pokemon, but every time you start getting into like this deep stats, that's what I'm hearing. And it's just, it's so apropos. Okay, Joe, thanks for coming. Joe. So you told us where they can find your XM radio show. What else can. Where else can we find you? Yu-Gi-Oh Twitter. JB Fantasy Sports. We do a lot of different content leading up to the fantasy sports season. Again, I'll be on four times a week. Week up until September. Then we'll be on Friday and Saturday talking the show. I mean, we'll see. We got. I'll be at the national. Love to connect with you guys as well too. And get. Get just completely trounced in trivia again by Mike. That'll happen. I can't help but he's a Rain man. I just, I'm happy that I'm in the greatness of that. Thank you. Yu-Gi-Oh no, it's, it's. This is. You talk about being geeky and I understand that. Like, I, I wholeheartedly acknowledge the Pokemon love fantasy football. It's talking about fake football and, and putting it together. I really find this is a connecting thing. Like the term geeky. I used to for a long time feel like it was a derogatory term. Maybe Mike still treats it that way. I embrace it. I love it. I love talking to other people who are geeky and interested. We're nerds and we love it. It's. That's the cool thing. It's different though when it brings us all together. But that's the problem. It's fine when you're talking about a sport. That's a real thing. It's when I have a full grown adult sized male dress like a friggin Disney character that my 2 year old son watches, loves and at the same time he's ripping and celebrating because he had an Elsa card. There's levels to this stuff. There's like, there's in. There's vehicular manslaughter. Sure, it's a crime. Then there's friggin premeditated murder. So I. Premeditated murder. Correct. Your vehicular manslaughter. Exactly. I got it. Joe Bartel wrote a wire. Thank you, sir. Work on your trivia and we'll have you back. We'll see you this weekend. Sounds good. Good. Thanks guys. See you. Well, there was Joe from Rotor Wire. Thank you for coming on. Joe. Maybe our new football guy. I like him a lot. He's bitter about the money. I Goldin I don't think so. He didn't even talk about it. I didn't care. If I'm putting us in the same tax pressure, that's fine, no problem. Guys, Mike has more money than me. That's not true. How was B. How was Bourbon Steakhouse last night? Interesting. You definitely have more money after I went to Bourbon Steakhouse last night. All right, I like Joe. We'll see. See, I do too. He might be the guy. I think. I hope he is. If you guys are going to the national, here's a fun fact for you. If you stop by the Haystack booth and you're looking to sell cards, you may be finding yourself in a perfect scenario. Because what they are doing is they're going to be able to image your cards at the Haystack booth and then allow those offers for those cards to come to you. Essentially they are going to approve dealers that can express interest and send cash offers straight to your phone. I'm very interested in this myself because often if you've never been to the national. Or even if you have, you may already know this. It is easy to sell if you have a table set up because people know to come to you. But if you have cards you're bringing to the show and you want to sell them, if you are not getting the price because like you go to a table, they're going to maybe offer you 80% and you're not going to get like the closer to 90 or 100% comp value, this is probably the best opportunity you have to getting the highest return for that card. So I would say if you have the opportunity, stop by the Haystack booth. They are going to be doing this. I am very interested. I'm going to be going by there myself. Basically, their. Their motto for this is you chase the card and now let the offers chase you. I think it's a cool little thing. Jesse's motto was like, chase the kids with the cards. Give me those Elsas. There you go. The kids don't have the Elsas. They can't afford them because people like you, they're very chilling up that market. It is booze booth 1432 and 1434. Just if you needed that information. Okay. And by the way, booth number for us too. So we're booth 527 is the content booth. That is 50,027 if you're looking at it. But it's 505-0027. Right. It's on the second Fleer We're gonna have the full podcast studio build out. We actually are looking to hire new potential card people with talent. There's not a lot of people with talent in the industry. The hobby's Got Talent. Hobbyist people. But also, even if you're like, that doesn't work out if you have like an awesome show or, hey, I've been to the national 15 years in a row. If you have something cool that is national centric, we actually want that because we're gonna put together like a compilation, I guess, like a compilation video of that. Like cool stories from the national. So come by the booth, talk to us about that. We will have a separate booth somewhere up there. That booth number we don't have. We will do the actual buying and selling, the transacting. We're looking to buy everything for the ebay live shows. Like, we're going to try to load up. In addition, I made a list. I've said this before. I like to make a list of cards I'm chasing when I get there. And then there's some. Some are Just open ended. But I'm gonna offer a bounty on these cards as well. I will buy the card. But if you can get the card to me and even if somebody else's and I buy it, I'll give you money. Tom Brady. So Tom Brady Harris is number one on the list. If you bring me that card and I make a deal for it, whether it's yours or somebody else, I give you 500 bucks just for making the deal. A bob, your rookie, mid grade rookie or higher. A bob your autograph. Rookie. Terrell Davis, sign of the times. 2001 autograph. That's the last one from that set I've been working on for about nine years. There are two Terrells in that set. Terrell Owens, I don't need Terrell Davis. I need. There you go. Larry Bird, 1993 Finest Refractor. PSA 10, I believe the pop is 12. Same thing. I give somebody a few hundred bucks just for setting up that deal and then just kind of a wide open one. Obviously anything cool that catches our Yu-Gi-Oh whatever. But the other one is mid 2010s tops. Triple thread, baseball and football. Triple auto triple cards with all hall of Famers. They have a bunch of like just really cool triple autograph cards. A lot of triples in there. So there you go. Okay. But the big boy. If you can bring me the Eris Brady, the bird, the Terrell Davis, I'll make. I'll. I will send you to dinner with Jesse. I thought you were saying gonna make out out with them. Why would you say that? That's what you're there for. No, I wouldn't. You get to either take the money or you get to make out with Jesse. Dealer's choice. That is get how excited Jesse got that loud. I'm just kidding. You're not gonna make out with Jesse. Can you please? You pervert. Good God. I know that's your currency with Pokemon, but it's not. We're talking sports, you creep. 50027 is where we are at at the National. That is up the escalator. So come check out Hall G, I believe. Is that G Hall. Last national Note. I saw somebody post this up. Hotels are already putting up the sign like for that week. There's no loitering. I used to be Zebra against this. Like, dude, it's my hotel. If you've ever been to the national and you go to your hotel at night, you can't freaking walk in. There's a bunch of teenagers and adults just sitting and sprawled Everywhere. And they make their own personal trade night. Yu-Gi-Oh I used to be like, dude, I'm paying for hotel. This is stupid. You can't. I am 100% on board now. You should not feel like it is the most obnoxious thing because not everybody there is there for the national, so. Jason Blue Ice calling you. Jason Ball. Card show. Do you know Jason and Gary? The new show we signed? I don't think so. Jason, Gary, let's say hello. Hello. You're live on the podcast. I am. You are. Jesse's here too. He doesn't know you, though. Jesse, what's up? Jason Ball. Jason Ball. I'll take it. I'll take it. Last time I saw Jesse, he was sweating in a Buzz Lightyear, so. Okay, you know what? Leave the. Leave the jokes to me, sweetheart. Can we help you with something or do I need to call you back privately? It's G14 classified. Goodbye, G14. I don't care for that. Little dig at Jesse there, by the way. I don't know what I did to Jason. I thought we were best friends. Tops is not doing a rapper redemption at the National. I just wanted to throw that out there. I think it may be the first Seminole a little bit that they haven't. But got word of that. I don't know. There is something that they are doing. I don't know if we. Brendan, can we talk about that? Actually, I just now realized. I think you said something last week where. I don't know if that information. Embargoed. I feel like it was embargoed until now. It was embargoed, but I think it ended at noon Eastern, so it's somewhere safe. Is that unbargoed? Yu-Gi-Oh sure. Let's go with unbargoed. Embargoed, you said. It's fine. All right. We also just got confirmation a second ago. We had talked about this last week. The Grading combine. Grading Card shoot. What's the name of this thing? Card Combine. Now the PSA one. Psa. Oh, psa. Grading Boot Camp. So you're gonna, like, go through. I think me and you're gonna. It sounds like maybe like compete, like, try to go through and grade it and then the professionals will actually grade it. Yu-Gi-Oh We are locked in now for Friday at 2:30. Friday at 2:30. Brandon, can you put that on the schedule, please? Friday at 2:30. 2:30. Yep. And then we will also. I mean, we have a bunch of that content come out. Come up there to Hall G as well. On. That's when I'm doing the Gary Vee and Logan Paul thing. He's gonna slap Logan Paul in the face. No, I would not do that. I got your back. I'm just saying if you do. Yu-Gi-Oh It would take both of us. Yu-Gi-Oh that's the thing that works out. That's a lopsided tag team because Gary Vee can't fight. But Logan's tough. I think Logan might be able to lay us both out. Well, let's just try not. He's lucky to catch him in my 30s. Let's just try not to fight. He wouldn't even be in the hobby. You said it was it Friday was at 2:30. Correct. PM at Central Time. Card grade. Okay, cool. I'm pumped about the national. I really am. Like, I know we talked about and we have sponsors and content to do. Best part of it, just walking the Fleer and seeing a bunch of crap and trying to buy it. My biggest piece of advice, everybody gives advice. Buy a card that you're not going to sell. Buy a card that's like a cool story piece. A little memento, as it were. Have become very sentimental, I would say into it as well. Something I've been learning more and more recently. Just because you find a good deal, know what you're going to do with that? That. Because a lot of people will find a good deal. It'll be expensive, but it's a great deal. What are you going to do with it? Are you keeping it? Are you selling it? Are you going to trade? What is the idea? Have that in mind before you buy. one-of-one some words. Do we have a mailbag or. No, no, that's a. We have to go do the mojo thing. That's right. Okay. After this. So this will release Monday afternoon. I think we're going to have a podcast. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. At least three of those days. Maybe I'll find. Yu-Gi-Oh at least three more podcasts this week. Maybe all five days. That's a lot of pod. But some of them will be short, like 30 minutes. Some would argue too much. When do you leave? Sunday morning, early. Yu-Gi-Oh me too. Yu-Gi-Oh I gotta get dad back, so. Okay. Oh, I also need to carry a lot of cash to the national. How do I do that? Well, I have my dad. He literally just brings the lockbox. Yu-Gi-Oh but I mean, like, how do you get it on the plane? I thought there was like a limit or just they're going to check it. Oh, okay. Yu-Gi-Oh When you go. I would. You're carrying it on. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Just. I put mine in The Zion case. Oh, okay. Yu-Gi-Oh I've got like, my valuables, my. The cards I'm bringing, and just wads of cash in the Zion case. Okay. And almost always. Well, you've seen it. They always stop at security. Yu-Gi-Oh Yep. But. All right. I just didn't want it to be a thing like, oh, you can't take more than ten grand in cash or something. No, I don't think it's. I mean, I've brought a lot more than that before. Maybe that's internationally. Okay. All right. Well, Yu-Gi-Oh when you're muling, you can't bring more than 10 grand. You'd be expecting. You put the money in. Where do you put that one? You would love being a mule. We have to. We'll be back probably Wednesday. Goodbye. Bye. I'm not giving up. I am selling the building. 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