RIDICULOUS: Panini DENIES Using AI on Cards

A new set of Panini cards contains player descriptions that are so outrageous that many believe only AI could have written them. But now Panini denies using AI on these cards. You've got to hear what some of these cards say. Was it AI or is there something more at play here? We'll debate now. Hello, sports card investors, and welcome to another cards on the table from the Arena Club studio here inside Cards hq. Teapot and Scott, you guys recovered from game one of the NBA Finals last night? I did not stay up to watch the end. Oh, I did. It was a big comeback by New York. It was. We're talking about that. I want to talk about the impact on card prices. We'll talk about that later in the show. But we got to start with what is going on with Panini's newest set of basketball cards. Have you seen some of these cards? Yes. This is outrageous. Brace yourselves. This is outrageous. So this actually was first pointed out by a user on Twitter named Ravers. And he pointed out first that in the brand new set of Panini signature series basketball cards just released, that there is a Joan Behringer RPA that on the back of the card says, first of all, that Behringer plays like a storm chaser in his own movie. I don't know what that means. But then it goes on to say that he unleashes a three that lands like thunder. Except Joan Behringer has never attempted a three point shot in his entire NBA career. He's never attempted a three point shot. So what is this three that he unleashes like thunder upon defenders? What is this possibly talking about? So Ravers post this to Twitter. It gets a lot of people reacting, going, what the heck, Panini. Then Ravers find some other cards and people start replying to the chain as well, including BJ Edgecomb. Great rookie, great young player. This is the description on the back of one of his signature series cards. Edgecombe dribbles like someone who turned gravity into a prank. One moment he's earthbound, the next he's tiptoeing across air currents that only he can see. Defenders swear they hear wind chimes when he launched his last jumper, a sound marking another night where physics politely sat this one out. What? I don't even know what to say to that. This is like. This is. We got. We got some. I don't even know what to say. I couldn't read that if I wanted to. I laughed out loud when I read these. Literally. I was like dying. This is some Edgar Allan Poe stuff. Right here, like I don't even know we're doing. Carter Bryant, another player in the same set. This is the back of his card. Bryant plays like fractured glass. His cuts slice sharp, his jumpers refract in impossible angles and his movements scatter reflections across the floor. Defenders chase cards, chase chards, only to be cut by the real thing. His style isn't smooth, it's jagged brilliance, dangerous and dazzling at once. How many adjectives can we possibly put on the back of one card? And this by the way, goes on and on and on. A lot of cards from this signature series set contain this craziness. Now of course, many people, possibly ourselves included, saw this and goes, well that's got to be AI. I mean only ChatGPT can have the brilliance of writing something some of these descriptions. But the athletic contacted Panini and Panini is denying the use of AI on their cards. In fact, Panini said they employ a team of full time writers, including former sports writers who write the backs of these cards. Panini's denial is interesting because we only have to go back a couple of years ago to 2024 when they first introduced the dual downtown cards. And you might remember the duel downtown of Michael Penix Jr. And Bijon Robinson from our Atlanta Falcons where the artwork on the card appears to be clearly AI generated because the yard lines on the football field are all turned the wrong direction. And there were other downtown cards that year where players fingers were missing extra fingers or there were extra fingers in the artwork. I think Caitlin Clark had one where her hand was screwed up like on one of her downtowns or kabooms. And so Panini's denial of using AI, I mean, ah, ah, I'm not so sure. Teapot, when you saw these cards, what did you think about all this? I mean, what's worse, saying you used AI or saying you used highly incompetent people? Like this is what happens when I guess you start hiring people out of Sarah Lawrence who majored in poetry. And if they're saying this wasn't AI written, the alliteration is impressive. On that last one that we saw defenders chase chards, Jagged brilliance, dangerous and dazzling. They got a lot of, a lot of fun stuff going on. This ridiculous descriptions on the back of cards is not anything new. In fact, if you go back and you have your childhood binders from the 90s and you read some of these things, they actually like talk to the athlete. So it'll be like, oh, Rod Strickland, you have the nastiest crossover the world has ever seen, you know, slicing to the like. Some of this is kind of new. It's almost like they took the backs of those cards and just said into Chad, GPT or Claude, make these even more ridiculous and put these on the back of the cards. There's no way this wasn't written by AI. There's literally no way. Maybe Panini doesn't think it was written by AI. Maybe they're paying somebody who's just remote working and going let's get this done and then just check out for the rest of the day. Something is at risk here. Either that or there's some kind of illegal substances being used out of desperation as Panini collapses in on itself. We've been doing cards on the table this show for many years now. And of course Panini had the licenses for many years and every single week we had something like this that seemed to surface and we had to pick are we going to talk about the next ridiculous thing or the next non response. And this is the piece that I would say I understand there are a lot of people right now who are really critical of tops and fanatics and what's kind of going on. A monopoly and all this stuff. And they're romanticizing an era that produced some really cool looking cards but a whole lot of absurdity and a company that has literally never one time owned a mistake they've made ever. They're non responsive. I'm surprised they even got back to the Athletic and said anything. Normally they just ghost you, they don't respond and then we're left to speculate and kind of admit that this must be what's going on. So this is truly hilarious. Not surprising. And this is what I would call a slop. Now people are starting to say anything that's generated by AI is AI slop. Even if it's really cool looking. This is a slop. Scott. Is this AI slop? Is that what they did here? Kind of see they're a slop or it's someone like you, Jeff, assigning Ty and I to do copy and like hey, that's who can make the craziest descriptions possible. It's like a competition about what's more ridiculous. Like this Carter Bryant I'm looking at what is it next Possession. He's cutting through traffic like he grew up in a city of nothing but moving cars. Like what's going on? And so it probably is AI. Obviously they denied it. It could be a situation where they created some copy themselves, a copywriter, and then that copywriter put it in ChatGPT or Claude or whatever to get feedback. And it kind of just cleaned up what he was saying. And that's where we got here at this point. But it feels way too artificial to not be artificial at this point. But I will say AI for copy does not bug me at all as long as the copy is good. The problem is this isn't good. And so if it was a little bit better, I think we'd be okay with it. All right. I got a completely different view from you guys on this one. Completely different view. I came from an era as a collector in the 1980s when the card backs actually had a lot of importance because that was your source to see all the stats of a player. Stats, yes. Lots of stats. Lots of important. You would. I would. I would actually spend time looking at the back of every single card. The card backs mattered over the years that magic got lost. And in the last decade, we've been in an era where a lot of cardbacks say absolutely nothing. They're basically blank. They basically. You know, there's not. They've stopped doing the stats. They've stopped putting any type of effort onto the card backs. Generally, they're a waste. At 50 of the cards gone, now Panini decides to have a little fun with it. I don't know if this is AI or some writer who's just kind of gone off the rails a little bit. I don't know what it is, but I actually think this is brilliant. I think this is great. They're making card backs fun again in a different way, but I think it's fun now. Every time I pull a card out of a Panini unlicensed set, I'm going to flip it over and read it. Jasper, I've got one for you. Malawak. Is that how you say the guy's name from Phoenix? I should know this. Block shots like he's swatting dreams back into reality. Players rise for the rim. He rises higher, palm wide, and suddenly the ball's going the other way. Then he rumbles down the floor, catches the lob, and dunks so hard you wonder if the hoop just resigned in the middle of the game. It is pretty entertaining. It's brilliant. You know what? I would like to see the stats, bring the stats back. Print the name of the dang, insert or parallel on the back of the card and print the pack odds on the back of the card. Then we'd be talking about the facts of Kirtley. I say go, Panini. Keep. Keep doing it. Whatever you're doing chatgpt Claude. Just keep it doing it. I love it. Sarah Lawrence grad's just got a whole bunch of new job projects. I love it. I love. You know what else I love? Ripping some Arena Club slab packs. Let's. What are you chasing today, Scott? We're gonna do diamond packs today. These are high end packs. We're talking like thousand dollar high end. You're gonna do baseball. What are you chasing? I'm gonna do baseball. And what we're actually doing a little bit different today. I'm gonna share my screen and we're gonna go look at what is in the baseball pa. Tell you what I'm hoping to pull. Obviously the grails right here would be great if I could get one of those. I'm just going to probably say I'm not going to. But if I scroll further down, it'd be great to get this Ohtani PSA 10. This is the Prism rookie card. Those have gone nuts. And even further down, I want to get this green Tarik Skubal and then gouge tie over here a bunch of money. That's what I'm hoping. 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Download the Arena Club app or go to arena club.com promo code SEI. 20% off your first Slab Pack purchase. All right, let's go to our next story. Beckett. Guys, I've been. I've been calling for the Beckett comeback. I've been calling for the Beckett comeback. The Beckett comeback is maybe finally upon us, and you got to think even more so now with last week's news that PSA is shutting down. I'm sure Beckett's about to get flooded with submissions. Beckett's grading output jumped 49 in May. They graded more than145,000 cards in May, according to Gem Rate. That was the single month high for the company. General manager Colin Hudson says the company has added graders. They've improved their infrastructure. You're starting to see the results of that. Their goal is to get to 200 plus thousand cards per month in terms of output. So they're continuing to invest, they're continuing to grow. What do we think? Do we think this is. Is this Beckett's moment to shine? Do we expect growth to continue from here now that PSA has shut down levels below value? What do you think? I don't know how much of this has to do. And this is no shade against Colin, because I saw your interview. I saw you talk to him, and he's. He seems really enthusiastic. But I think more of this has to do with the fact that PSA was already, like, grinding to a halt before they formally shut down operations last week or earlier this week, I guess. So that's what I think is really kind of going on Here and they're probably going to get a glut. Now, if you have sports cards that you want to get graded, you're not sending them to SGC unless they're vintage. And SGC is super backed up. Unless you really like CGC and you're trying to help them grow their presence with sports cards, you're probably going to Beckett. I've had like a few different people reach out to me on Instagram and talk to me and they're like, I think I'm going to send to Beckett. So we saw like, what was it? I don't even know what the final tally was if we got it. The number of cards in that five day period when PSA announced it was like 3 million cards like we expected. So that's just gonna back things up even further. People are gonna be at a standstill. This is the moment when Beckett absolutely needs to do whatever they can to seize this moment and opportunity to start to get back in. Why? Because if you're like me and you were trying to use Beckett 5, six years ago under different leadership, it was a terrible experience. The process of submitting was terrible. There was no communication. Your label comes back crooked. It's called the wrong thing on the label. All these issues, they need to be in lockstep, super buttoned up as much as they can. And if they make a mistake, Colin, take a page out of Peter Steinberg's book from back in the SGC days when he was there and own it publicly. Do a little press release, go out, hey, we're trying, we're growing. We're so serious about getting back in the game. And I think that's ultimately probably what they need to do to get more market share out there. The other thing I've thought about over the years and some people I'm sure will comment and think this is like nefarious or sneaky. You know how like kabooms in downtown started out super short printed. And then over time, what do they do? They make more. They make more. They make more. They make, but the market doesn't really care. There's more demand, there's more of a thirst and appetite for these cards. So they're just kind of meeting demand and it grows in a like way. I think Becket should. They may already be doing this slowly but surely give out more 10 pristines and more 10 black labels. Don't go crazy with it. Don't screw it all up. But if it's like close, it would help their business to bump up because a BGS10 pristine outsells a PSA10 right now. It's literally the only competitive advantage they have against PSA outside of people who actively hate psa. They could start doing that and people would see it and they'd be like, oh, Maybe now there's 100 Beckett Black Label tens of this mass produced card now, as opposed to, you know, 50. You sort of slowly, like, see and see how the market reacts. If people feel like they can get the value on a card like that and send it in, that's what I would do. I think it would be a savvy business. I know people are gonna go, oh, I want people to grade hard. You don't. You don't. You don't want people to grade hard. You want tens. People want tens. You want tens. They want tens. Okay, Scott, so T bot's calling for a little bit of a loosening of grading standards at Becket to seize the moment. Do you agree? I actually think they should still change the grading scale. I think that is a change they need to do. I don't think it'd be a hard one, and I think a lot of people would go to BGs. They can still keep the black label. They can still keep a higher 10 if they want to. But a gemint grade, if we were categorizing it the same as a PSA 10 according to Beckett standards, I think that's needed at this point. I will say, though, I think that this increase is more so due to like, like the situation and circumstances more than Beckett really doing anything right, if that makes any sense. And I think they're going to have another great couple months while PSA is closed. But I don't think that means that BGS is on the rise. I think it's good that they have better leadership. I think they'll have reliable leadership, all of that. But I think there are a few changes they could make. Like Ty mentioned having tens become easier or just making ten the gem mint grade. And that could actually help people want to send their cards there instead. If there. If there is one thing that we have learned about the sports card hobby, the psychology of collectors, it is that they want their cards to be slapped with that 10 grade. Yeah. Even if they're not a 10, they don't care if they're a 9 or an 8 or a 7. In actuality, they want a 10 put on top of their cards. And I've had an issue with Beckett's grading scale ever since the big Covid influx of people came in because you got all of these new collectors that don't understand the legacy of the 9, 5 and they don't understand the history of Beckett versus PSA and what that 95 is really supposed to mean. All they see is the number 10 and the number 95. And a 95 is not as big of as a 10 and they want the 10. And I really do think that difference in grading scale was one of the primary reasons why PSA accelerated in secondary market value and then also in just submission volume over the course of the last five or six years. I do think whether it's Beckett becoming a little more loose with giving out pristine tens, just so there's a little more tens getting into the market, you got a little bit of a greater chance of getting a pristine 10. Or whether they just take the standard 9.5. Maybe it's a 9, 5, that's a true gem. And. And those become a 10, which is, by the way, what they had said they were going to do a couple years ago. And then they immediately backed off it. They should have done it because I actually do think it would help their company. Now they're having a little bit of a resurgence in the market. Could be the moment. Could be the moment. Whatever it is, could be the moment. Get some tens out there in people's hands. They need to tweak it. They're happy. They need to tweak it. Like I'm reading their descriptions for a 10. Pristine, centering, 50. 50 all around on the front, 55, 45 or better on the back. Okay. Make it 52, 48. Yeah. Like change it slight, like that's a marginal thing. Or 53, 47. And then you look at the other thing and it's like perfect to the naked eye. Perfect to the naked eye. Virtually flawless. Make it just like. I'm not advocating for them to like call something that's an 8.5 a 10. I'm just saying a slight margin that would help people win in a direction. Maybe they could they change it to where if you have two tens and two nine fives, it's a ten instead of three and one or something. And maybe don't touch the black label. That's what I would be workshopping internally and I think a more subtle. Even if you announce the changes in standards, I personally don't think it would be a good idea to just change it and make like get rid of nine, five or some of the things that have been talked about. They just need to get with the times. We saw CGC when they started grading sports cards, they tried the Beckett scale and it was such a failure they jumped to the PSA scale. So with the 95 that is between kind of like SGC and that was a huge win for them. And Beckett needs to get with the times. This something people want. There's going to be people in our comments saying, well, this isn't ever going to happen because the biggest BGS customers are those that collect the BGS10s and now we're undervaluing their BGS10s or devaluing, I should say their BGS10s. So that's the reason why they probably didn't do it is I got that feedback. But I think like you mentioned, Jeff, anything, even if they had done that in the past, I was in favor of all nine fives being tens because I had minjem nine fives that I thought were gem mint according to them. But at the same time, if they'd have made that change back then, everything would be better for them. Even if I didn't agree in the moment, everything would be better than it is right now. I think the BGS9 needs to also have the same gold label as the other 9.5. Yeah, it's still a mint card. Yeah, I agree. All right, a couple more stories to get to. Real quick. GameStop just announced their Q1 revenue in their federal in their financial filings with the government. This caught my attention. We have Gamestop officially flipping where collectibles now are the majority of their revenue compared to hardware and accessories. It's flipped and also compared to software. So you got collectibles at 350 million that has overtaken this is for quarter one that overtook hardware and accessories at 340 million for Q1 and then software down at 150 million for Q1. So without a doubt, GameStop is no longer a video game first store. It is now a collectibles first store as the individual slice of the pie that is the biggest individual slice of the pie in their revenue mix. Scott, did these results surprise you? And which what should GameStop's role in the hobby be? Are they the new LCS? I mean, for a lot of people they are. I mean, growing up, I grew up in Idaho. We didn't have an LCS for a long time. It would have been nice. We had three GameStops who could have gone there and gotten some cards. They feel like an lcs. Their prices are pretty expensive. They're over msrp. They get somehow they get like retail for Pokemon cards and they're more expensive there than Target. So it feels like they're already coming to LCS in that way, turning that profit. But this success that GameStop is seeing is the reason why everybody Target, Walmart, Target's doing a whole big thing, making like a card section. Walmart's doing online live breaking and things. Everybody's seeing this success and it's kind of like a cheat code right now to get into collectibles and TCG and sports cards because people are spending a lot of money in that space. I don't think they're a threat to local card shops. There is something about the feel of a local card shop that GameStop has failed to capture, in my opinion. I think their PSA partnership was a wonderful thing for them. It's been very successful and they're crushing it. PSA is getting more revenue. GameStop's getting more people in the store and getting more revenue as well. But when you go to GameStop, it doesn't feel like going to cards HQ or going to the local card shop down the street. And until they capture that, I don't think it'll be able to push anybody out personally. What do you think TBA? Is this the new LCS? Is this a threat to all those LCS's all over the country? No, I don't think it is. Except insofar as like anything with allocation starts to happen. I mean lcs, many of them do they really depend on allocation and trying to get sealed wax is a big part of their, their inventory. So you know, that could be a piece. We just got done doing a really fun event as like the road to Fanatics Fest with, with fanatics at Dick's House of Sport where we were giving out packs to kids all day. My kids were there, they were throwing footballs and competing and we had Chipper Jones and Jalen Johnson and it was, it was a really fun event. But to your point, you're seeing that that's sort of like the sports equivalent that we're seeing now of GameStop with TCG. I would sort of take this in a different direction and say what does GameStop's growth mean for the manufacturers on the primary market? How is fanatics looking at this? They've been really pushing into it. I remember a couple years ago they were already talking about when we went, when I went to the industry conference, getting more into gaming cards and other things. League of Legends, like even just Halo cards and whatever things that have like that cult following that would make somebody who walks into a GameStop who's maybe not a Pokemon or a TCG person stop and pause and go like, oh my gosh, like, you know, I didn't know I could get a Lara Croft, you know, Topps Chrome card or whatever their favorite game is nowadays. I don't do as much gaming these days, but there's something there I think I'd be looking at. Okay, how do I nurture upstream down to GameStop and continue to grow that business as like with a product, with products that people would get really excited about. Oh, you come in doing limited release stuff. Oh, you bought this new, this new Call of Duty, you know, game. You get two packs that are part of that purchase with it. There's ways that that could, it could become very co creation of value. I agree. Yeah. There's a lot of crossover between the video game and the trading cards and that'll. Yeah. And they could encourage even more of that. I like it. All right, let's wrap on this great game one of the NBA finals last night. Surprising victory, comeback victory. 14 point comeback victory for the New York Knicks over the spurs at the Spurs Stadium. A lot of people surprised by the result. The top three cards in the top five cards which will come out Saturday on this sports card investor channel, the top three cards are trending to all be three players in the NBA Finals. I'll, I'll leave the mystery of which three, but people might be able to guess. Where do you think the card market goes from here? Teapot on these cards we've seen, we've seen a lot of these players cards be nuclear. From Wemby to Jalen Brunson to Carl Anthony Towns to Dylan Harper to Darren Fox, we've seen a lot of interest in all of their cards over the last month. Stefan Castle has been great. Right. Where's the buy? Right? Is there a buy right now? Is there a buy right now? Coming off of Game 1, Jalen Brunson's going nuclear. Is there, is there a buy right now? Where do you see things at? If you believe up one zero that the Knicks are going to win this, then as nuclear as Jalen Brunson is right now, his cards will go up. They might double like the 2016 Cubs. Chicago Cubs won the World Series. They broke the curse. They won the World Series. Those players cards from those sets from that year in particular, anything that celebrates that World Series are so expensive. Those fans, those Chicago fans were so desperate for that that they go after there. There's image variations from stadium club and other things and it doesn't matter. It's Kyle Schwaber, it's Jon Lester, it's whoever they. They are very valuable cards. This would be that on steroids. The Knicks fans are so desperate. And in that regard, I am not a Knicks fan. We have some Knicks fans here. Will, from our team, is a Knicks fan. I'm happy for them. Like I do. I get happy for teams that have been starved for, like, getting to a Finals and now their hopes are really up. They're up 1 0. They're going to lose their minds with their budgets for these players cards if they. If they win. On the flip side, you're looking at the Spurs. Obviously, Wemby has been up to the moon as well. I think Wemby's a phenomenal talent. There's all these videos circulating on YouTube now talking about how he's already the best player in the NBA. I strongly disagree with that. I do not think he's the best player in the NBA yet. He's very, very good. And next year, as soon as next year, he might be the best player in the NBA. He's still got growing to do. He's in his third year. He's fantastic defensively. He's the best player in the NBA. What really intrigues me, though, is he's kind of, as we typically do, getting all the credit for the spurs making the Finals. They're not. He's not the reason they're in the Finals. They're in the Finals because of Julian Champagne shooting like 70% in two closeout games for the spurs from three, whereas the Thunder had Alex Caruso shoot like three for 16. If any of that normalizes, the Thunder are sitting here in the Finals, not them. Wemby only had 22 points in that Game 7. The other big reason, though, is you have sixth man of the year Keldon Johnson on the team, and then you've got arguably the two most talented young guards in the NBA in Stephon Castle and in Dylan Harper, also on that team. This is a terrifying roster over the next 10 years. Terrifying if Wemby's healthy, if he continues to level up, which I think all of us agree he will, they're going to be so, so tough to beat. And to that end, if you then look at the other side of the equation, I think I'm going to call it right now, this is what propels the Thunder to go out and make a move for Giannis. I think they're getting Giannis. I thought it would happen two years ago, but they've been so good and they won a championship and they were literally that close in this game. I think they're going to make the move because they've got. They need bigs. They got to compete. Okay. All right. I don't know. What do you think, Scott Baianes? I think Ty nailed it. But I will say I'm not a huge basketball fan. I love basketball. But I kind of have been a fan of the NBA the last few years. Even I am drawn. Oh, you're drawn in. And I saw as like the highest rated finals in 28 years. Like it's a really great renaissance we're seeing right now. And having the spurs go versus the Thunder to the finals. The Knicks help, of course, and their gigantic fan base. But it's a really great matchup and it's very interesting. I think Ty's right. Jalen Brunson has so much upside if they win. But I'd be really scared to buy his cards right now at the already inflated price. But you know, I'm too risk averse. But there's a lot of players who have a lot to lose, namely Wembanyama. In the short term, his cards could really go down if he has a poor finals and if they don't win, if they get swept, something like that happens, we're seeing some crazy prices. We could see that drop a little bit right now, which I would be concerned about if it was me. I don't really see other support role players like a cat having much value. Darren Fox having much value from this. Maybe a little bit. But I think it's really just Brunson and Wembanyama are really going to blow up. Whoever it is. I would not buy Castle and Harper right now because they're very high and their graded copies of like Chrome are super low. Still good off season buys? Yeah, off season or like even a year from now. I'm going to watch those guys with Wemby. I think win or lose, his cards will at worst stay flat. I do not think they come down at all. It's so early in his career. He is. We saw Ohtani's cards continue to go up in the off season. I think he's going to follow a similar trajectory. If he wins, I think it will break the mold and he actually will go up more. I think if he loses, he's going to stay. Nobody's going to be selling. I don't know. We've seen like those prizm tens go crazy. They have gone. Those have to have some softening. Right. The short term. I think I wouldn't be surprised if Wimby's like some of those cars come down a little bit. But I think it would be a situation where they're down for a month or two and then all of a sudden that's what I start building and building to the start of next season again. And by the start of next season they're higher than they are right now. Would not be surprised if that's the case at all. All right. It's gonna be fun to watch. It's going to be fun to watch who you guys got. Is New York going to take it? Is it going to be the Spurs? Let us know in the YouTube comments. We appreciate you guys watching. 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