Why Are Some Sports Cards Worth 30X More? The Reality of Today’s Card Market

I did a Top Signature Class 20, 25, 26 basketball mega box versus a Topps Chrome update. So obviously pulled a Ray wave of Kahn and Cooper flag, but then I pulled an out of 50 from the Signature class. Mikel Bridges from the knicks out of 50. And then I got an auto out of a mega box and it's just Spencer Dinwiddie. So an auto and out of 50. And I know they're not Con and Cooper, so I knew these were more. Does anyone want to guess in our panel here of two the spread difference between what's on the table? I say it's 1 1/2x. I'd guess the signature class are less than $100, so 30x is the difference. The con and the Cooper are right at $300. Yu-Gi-Oh 10 bucks for the auto and the add of 50, but they're like 5 bucks each made. My issue is like, art wise, I think the signature class looks 30 times better than the update series does. Yu-Gi-Oh There's your 30x again. There you go. I'm Ryan Alford. And I'm Bella Schaefer and this is Collector Nation. We are curating all of the content in the hobby just for you, all in one place. All the videos, all the podcasts, all the reels, all those drops you want right here, right now. What's up, guys? Welcome to the Collector Nation. It's Ryan, Brian, and Bella. Hello, hello, hello. What's up? Here we are. Here we are again. Again. I can't believe it's almost a month past the national. I was thinking about that. Is it really been a month? Yep. I look at. It's a month closer to the next national. You and everyone else. A little ASMR of my drink opening for everyone. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh This was a guest I had on my business show this week and he was so nice to send. Yu-Gi-Oh he sent us a little care package. Got a little potion with the motion. It's motion. Yu-Gi-Oh Clever. Smells nice. It smells nice. How's it taste, though? Not bad. So we got these other energy drinks that I loved and everyone else. Oh, God, they're so bad. We're not going to name them. I think you already did. Oh, man. Everybody was in the. In the. In our office, studio, wherever the hell we were in. In our store, and we're like, what is she talking about? Because no one likes them except her. I love them. I gave myself, like a minor caffeine addiction. Yu-Gi-Oh Be your. Be your own person. Thank you. Don't listen to anyone else. This is the energy I needed. Yu-Gi-Oh one-of-one moving on to hobby news of the week. Another day, another $10 million card. I mean it seems like the, like every week we make these episodes and every week there's a new million plus dollar card that sold the one of them. I mean, I tell you, I tell you like they're not going to come down. They're not coming down. The high end stuff. Yu-Gi-Oh well, it's like you constantly like, it's, it's like NFL rookie contracts like they constantly are getting higher and higher and higher and higher because they have to outdo the one before. And it's the same thing with these cards. They're just constantly going to get higher and it's like, I mean at some point there's got to be a cap, I'd assume. But it's also like then we see these rookie contracts that seem to not have a cap. I think the only thing that's going to come down is like overprinted like stuff. But I think the short print like true, especially Ohtani one greatest, maybe the greatest player of all time. I mean that stuff's not coming down. I mean I think the, the cream of the crop is going to stay up. But I think you might see dips. I will say it's funny. This is related to unloading. So I've been d. You know, with the collector nation.com launching and so much news funneling in and editorial content and all that. So I'm, I'm in it now. It's so funny, you know, the hobby can't help itself. So I'm just gonna, I'm gonna push a lot of things in. It's having a good, a good season and you know, 2000 and 2001. I get it. And I wasn't in it then. I was a long time ago. Then I came back. But I was on the other side of that. So when I. You had so much fake money in, in, in the economy in 2001, you had all these reasons for why it tanked like it did. And I have no, I'm, I'm not a predictor of what the market's going to do or not do. But they just. I'm not an oracle. Not an oracle. But it's so funny watching the videos and every one of them we're, we're in for a Darren Downtown I know it's coming. There's another Downtown It can't stay like it is. It's just like 2021. They can't enjoy success. They can't And I get it. I don't. Nobody should be living in a, you know, bubble and not, you know, reality, but it's like they. They're going to manifest a Downtown to happen, you know, because it's just too good. I'm like, I'm not. Have my head in the sand, but, like, there's so many other measures involved right now that are way beyond what happened in 2021. So in the stock world. In the stock world, people could short a stock. So that means, like, you could really. You can bet if the stock's going down. Right. And so when there's a saying that if you bet on a stock that's going down and you could be. So. Right. But the market could stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. And that's kind of the thing. The card market can stay irrational and then more than longer than you could stay sane from seeing it go irrational. No, Yu-Gi-Oh that's. Yu-Gi-Oh it's a good point. Just ride the wave, bro. Just ride it. That's it. That's it, man. Yu-Gi-Oh Don't overthink it, bro. I also think that there's so much powerful and wealthy people coming into this space that they're gonna make it work whether or not it is like, Mr. Wonderful isn't gonna invest in something and not make it work. Yu-Gi-Oh It's just not gonna happen. It. It's not gonna happen, so. And it hasn't. And he's only one. There's like. There's gonna be 10 of those guys next year. Yu-Gi-Oh there's a. It's. I call it durability. And the dur. Durability of what's happening right now is on a much better footing than it was five, six years ago. And it's. There's. Some of the things are similar. I think 30% of it's similar, but I think the things that matter are more durable. We also had a vintage card record set this week. A complete 1997, 1998, 1998 Jordan PMG Red Set hit auction at $1.47 million. And for you to say those years that you didn't exist. Vintage. Yu-Gi-Oh man, I'm. I'm really vintage. I was 20 when that came out like that. But that number. But I mean, I was your age is now like 202003 or 2004 counts as a classic car. That would never be a classic car. But. Yu-Gi-Oh no, no, no. But I'm saying, like, not like I know, you know, 20 by the years, but, you know, but I guess. Do we Is it, like. Is it relative to the person that's talking about it, or is it relative to the industry? So, like, vintage, to me is always like. Like, the old cards that aren't have. Don't have parallels. And, like, you know, there's one set, like, tops or, you know, and it was Mickey Mantles and earlier and some 80s, but I really throw eight. I really feel like 80s is too. Too new. I think 70s and below. I think it's 75 and below. That's what I think. And. But even if I'm like. Even if I was Bella's age, I would still be like, that's vintage. Yu-Gi-Oh And then you would say, like, modern. Like, near modern. I don't know. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't. I just. I don't know if it's because it's, like, self preservation. I want to say that 1987 is not vintage. I mean, when you're 30 years removed, it doesn't feel like it to me. It does. How does it look like it. Because it was so overprinted and so. Yu-Gi-Oh it's like, that's a shirt that you should have. You should have. I should get a vintage shirt because I was born in the 70s and I had so much of it. God, I have so much of it. Like, it's like, you know, pulling my collection off the shelf didn't really, like, net a whole lot. No. They're going up now, though. Inserts are from there. That's a. That's an awesome set. I have not found one of those. I've been looking in my collection. I have not found any EMG red. Love it, man. That'd be like, my dream set. Once I grow up and make some money, if you have $1.4 million lying around, it can be yours. I'm about to run some newspaper ads. Like, literally little ads in the newspaper. It was like an infomercial. You run these little ads. Somebody's listening. Somebody's listening. And they got that joke. But in all seriousness, saying, buying collections, you're not gonna find. These guys aren't on Facebook. These guys are reading newspapers, Right? They're still reading newspapers. Ty Wilson with Chasing cardboard, he. That's what they do. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh And it works a lot of sense. I was, like, thinking, where you find these collections? And I. Because I think we live in a treasure trove hidden around us here. I think there's a lot of it. A lot of older neighborhoods. There's. I think there are. Oh. Surrounding us. I feel it almost like a. Like a track The Georgia. I just know it. I'm going to find it here. The hidden treasures. And easily. You know, it's interesting like now that you guys say like this sign, like driving in Chicago, there's like people just put signs up and say we buy houses, we buy cars. And they're just like, like handmade. Like. Yu-Gi-Oh At every, at, at a stoplight. And they're usually in pretty bad neighborhoods. But like I said, I'm just gonna put one. I buy sports cards and then put my phone number on there and see what happens. I think you'd probably regret the decision because you'd probably get so many phone calls. I keep a running Facebook marketplace ad saying that and I get probably five leads a week from it. Any good ones? One in five decent. One in five maybes. We had a huge collection that was sitting in the back for while. Is still back there. Yu-Gi-Oh it is. I got to call him today. Yu-Gi-Oh And it's the most. It's the world's largest collection of $2 cards. Yu-Gi-Oh It's not junk, but it's all, it's, it's all two to four dollars cards. And it's so well organized. It is impressive. Like each Pandora is labeled with the team, the year and it. And it's all correct. It's a hard one to get a fair value on because like, Yu-Gi-Oh we'll probably put it in B dollar bins or whatever and, and we wouldn't sell it all because he's got, he was a undiscerning collector. I'll just say that. Offensive lineman, defensive lineman, linebackers kick, place kickers, everyone got equaled. And your Tom Brady's, your Tom Brady's and your Peyton Mannings were intermixed with the place kickers and the O lineman. Like equal opportunity. It was a, A true collector. That's what I, I had a guy drop, drop a hockey set off. Zebra organized, like, unbelievable. And he's like, I want $30,000 for it. And it really, it's work. It is like valued at probably 40,000. Yu-Gi-Oh But I'm like, there's like 20,000 two dollar cars. I'm like, no, I don't. Yes. I mean, what are you gonna do? I mean, what are you doing? They're gonna get offended. Like if you're not gonna offer them 40, you're probably not even offering them 20. So it's like, what am I going to do, like mail $2 cards and sell them on ebay? No, you're not. Even if you could, you're not. You can you have the software to do it? But you're not like, give me here, 100 best. That's all I care about. Yep. Yu-Gi-Oh And those are $4. Exactly. So I've got to come up with a number today, and I'm just like, it's. I think he's very reasonable, though. So we'll see. I. I want to just. I got. There's like 10. There's like a hundred cards I want to send for Grady, but without value grading, you're kind of like, you know, and what should have a wheel? You should have a wheel in there. And, like, when someone comes in to sell a collection, you should just like, put some, like, whatever the slats are and just spin it and be like, nothing. 10%, 5%, 70%. Hey, people love a game, so that probably work. They do. They love it. And what's interesting that. I mean, we were Talking about the 80s and the vinyl stuff, and this is an art. I. I might have teased it last week. I can't remember. My week's running together. But I did write an article comparing. I pulled that Alter egos, no jokeage. Comparing it and a PSA 10. King Griffey Jr. So the. The fact that they're both $5,000 cards, but one has proof and one doesn't. You know, one's gone through recession, one's gone through seven downturns and seven re. Ups, and the market has established what it's worth. And one is from a company that's learned how to print $5,000 bills. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh I mean, which is impressive in its own right. So one-of-one I go deeper. That's a good take. That's a good take on it. Like, they. That's like the Griffey has gone through it all, you know, and, like, and it's now it's worth X and was down. It was trampled on. It was needed, and now it's right where it should be. Is that cartoon? Is that, like. Are you, like, getting smaller? Is that a massive, Massive. That's my collector creatives. We met them actually at the National. They were actually going to soon have some of their products available in store. But Zach Nigat, he. He takes Murray Henderson's artwork and turns it into XL cards. And it. I mean, they're awesome. We also have this one. I'm spinning this. I could just do this the whole time for everyone. If you're listening, you need to be watching. See me spinning this thing and not turning it over. This one's a little bit harder to see. But this is mj. Mj. Are those like the size of like, sorry, for all you listeners. Are those like comic book size? Yu-Gi-Oh probably about right. Yu-Gi-Oh Slab in there. You know, the kid, I loved them. I bought these there. And then someone was so nice to give me one. A couple friends gave me another one. They were very generous and I'm very fond of them. Yu-Gi-Oh they're awesome. And we're going to have some in store soon. Yu-Gi-Oh That are specific to our store. I just had to make sure my, like, my vision was correct. I'm like, either Ryan looks extremely small, which never happened ever, or that's a big ass card. Yu-Gi-Oh No one ever. Or that's a big ass card. No, it is. And they're, they're awesome. I mean, I would, I, we've shouted them out on the podcast like probably three times now at this point. And I would do it every episode because they are such awesome people. I'm really, There's a lot of awesome people. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Especially at the national. I was so, so happy with the amount of amazing, wonderful people that we got to meet. And you'll be seeing a lot of that content, a lot of videos coming out. I know Brian has posted, his team posted some stuff to LinkedIn, so go check them out there. And unbelievable social. Yu-Gi-Oh unbelievable. You guys do such an awesome job. That's amazing. Love you, Brian. Yu-Gi-Oh throw it back at you. I, I, I'll mention one other thing, article related. There's several up there. But I'm trying to give people, like, really more insight behind some of this stuff and not just parroting the same thing like what it is, how much it's worth. And it's a Downtown some, you know, trying to give some reasons to buy, reasons to sell different things and, and then insights on, you know, what certain things that happen that on the surface seem like the surface, but they usually signal bigger things. And so, you know, I'd love your feedback. Check it out on the CollectorNation.com under Analysis. Editorials. Analysis. Yu-Gi-Oh analysis paralysis. It's free. It's free. That knowledge is free for anyone who visits. And if you don't listen to it, I have to listen to it. So please go listen to it. I'm gonna listen to it. I do have audio and video versions of those kind of takes. So trying to give every, you know, if you're an audio person, listen audio. If you're a reader, you can read it. You know, you know, you know how people have that sleeping sounds like rain and I have noise I just have Ryan talking, whispering sweet nothings into your. He's just giving me industry knowledge, and I'm falling asleep. I will say. Yu-Gi-Oh I try to make it interesting at least. We'll see. You do a great job. I will say. I'm. I am excited. Football is my favorite time of year. We. We live in football country, and we've got football finally. Finally back. God, it's so long in February to August or September. Just. It's too long. And now. And it'll feel like a snap. And we're talking about the Zebra bowl, but I'm gonna enjoy it because it's here. We should do a team trip to Death Valley and go watch the game. Yu-Gi-Oh Brian's got it. Needs to definitely come down for that. I mean, I've actually never gone and seen a game in Death Valley. Are you serious? I have never. Oh, my God. I know. There you go. I feel like it's like, that's a criminal offense. We're definitely going to a couple this year. Nash is fine. Is of a. Is 10 now. It's not that we haven't gone, but, like, very sporadically. The last. Like, when they were kids. It's just not a lot of fun with small, Small kids. No. No fun at all. And I know people that do bring them, and it's great. But now I think we're getting back. We got the. The prime age for them to enjoy. We. We're both. Everyone enjoys it. Yu-Gi-Oh Me, he can have kids. He could tailgate, have a few beers. He's good. Yu-Gi-Oh exactly. We'll drive. So let's talk about. Talk about kids going to sporting events. So I'm at the White Sox game with my son Nick, and this. This baby, like, it almost is like she gave birth on the way to the game. Like, this baby was, like, so young, and she had these, like, headphones on the baby, and I'm like, what the hell is this? Like, that baby's like, you went to your first sax game. I brought you the first sax game. I mean, the kid. I mean, there's drunk people fighting and spilling, and, like, I. I just would never. That's just not my jam. So I actually kind of have a funny story about when I was a kid, my parents were. My dad, specifically, is a big Notre Dame fan, and so Notre Dame was playing near us, so we. We went to the game. I was maybe, like, seven or eight, and next to me, there was this guy that was so drunk. So drunk, he was, like, spilling his beer all over me. He Put his beer in my drink, like, just cause he thought the cup holder was empty. He was fighting with the people over me because they were fans of whatever other team they were playing. I can't even remember, but they were fighting, like literally almost about to brawl. We had to leave early because I was like sobbing because my poor slushie was ruined and I was getting beer spilled on me. It was terrible. So, Yu-Gi-Oh I, as a child that was forced to go to the games. Trauma. Yu-Gi-Oh they call him the Fighting. They don't call him the Fighting Irish for nothing. Well, I, I don't even think he was a Notre Dame fan, which made it even worse. You know, Like, I could have maybe excused it if he was, but. No, Yu-Gi-Oh if he was Irish, you can excuse it. I've seen those things that have going down before and it's like, it's just a train wreck. And I've had to step in a couple times with some really idiots doing stupid. But it's like, usually, you know, the, the drinks are pouring faster than they should be. Yep. Yu-Gi-Oh well, I was, we're at that same game. We are front row. I like to sit like front row bleachers, right? And these, these amateurs who probably never have played a sport in their life decide that they're going to heckle the center fielder. And I mean, the stuff that they're throwing out there, like, you're short. And I'm like, I'm like, by the seventh inning, I'm like, dude, these guys have said 300 things and not one of them's funny. And they just, they never stopped. I'm like, dude, if you want to chirp, I'll tell you how to chirp. I play baseball through the, through college. There's chirping. That's not chirping. That's annoying. And Yu-Gi-Oh so, so drunk people, Drunk people at games, babies at games. Nah, I, I, I would, I would have probably been the amount of people that cannot handle their beverages and that go to the game. It's like, you gotta know yourself. Like, you're, you're 38, you're 42, you should know yourself by now. Like, this isn't acceptable. You know how you get. We don't need to be the ones to tell you, like, you can have a good time, but you know, you go sideways and you do own stuff, and we shouldn't be the ones that have to suffer for it. Yu-Gi-Oh well, to go back to Cards for our tangent about drunk people at sports games, Brian, I know, it's, it's been a couple weeks since we had seen you. Football's heating up. Who are you looking at this preseason and who have you seen this preseason that you're excited for? I am buying Justin Herberts. I think that. I think that he's due for a year breakout year and I think his stuff is even Mahomes is down a little bit like I've been scooping a little bit of him up but for me I think Herbert, I like him. I think there's a with Harbaugh. Isn't Harbaugh the coach now? Yep. Yu-Gi-Oh So I think he's a winner. Yu-Gi-Oh so that's my. That's how I'm doing those two. What about you guys? The rookie class is kind of Yu-Gi-Oh We'll see. I mean I don't think Mendoza is going to play and he shouldn't play. I think Cousins should start and see let him watch a few games. I mean if Mendoza's just that good and mean at practice then sure but he probably he's best thing he do is get a really good backup to be in Cousins maybe started it for now with backup if you need it. Like I would let Cousins play. They don't have the. They don't have the dudes to. They're not gonna make a run. I don't think you have to rush it and that dude's gonna be legit. So let's not. Let's not get anything. Let's let the Raiders not get in their own way which they, you know. I don't know about that. Yu-Gi-Oh So we'll see But I you know Beck looked good in the one game I saw. We'll see. He might be the first, you know, QP to actually see the field from the rookie class. Think about that for a second. You know we've had these, you know, years. Even last year wasn't a big one but you had you know, Dart and Ward both starting having pretty good years and then the year before I mean we got all perennial all pros. You got Caleb Williams, Bo Nix, literally all but I mean Drake may go on and on. Yep. Pinnock and JJ or we'll see but even Pinnock has still got I think a shot at it. I don't think he's gonna beat out Tua but we'll see. I think he's got to get healthy first and then but this year I mean Jeremiah Love you know looks exciting it I saw where he got taken off the field too. So I was like I don't know if that was Just temporary. I'm not announcing an injury, by the way, but I'm like, oh, that's a good sign. I think. Also, I think running backs are like pitchers. Like, not Otani. Throw Otani the side in skins because he just came on like, as big as possible. But like, the running backs don't get a lot of love. And neither does like the hall of Fame pitchers either. Like, Yu-Gi-Oh running backs, especially in the card market, have been diminished a little bit. Whether that's fair or not, or should be reality. But I feel like it has been. Cause they've been. It's all about the wide receivers and the quarterback. I mean, at the end of the day, Yu-Gi-Oh like, Walter Payton's card should be way more. Yes. I have quite a few of them and I agree. On the brand. Well, as of this episode, releasing the brand new Topps flagship football. There's actually a dual auto of Jeremiah, Love and Beck, which I think will be a pretty cool card if they both play well. Yu-Gi-Oh they. That's interesting for that flagship football back for the first time. Not first time for a long time. Yep. First 20, 26 football cards. So you first look at the rookies on a pro team card and we'll have a lot of it here at Collector Station. We got hobby boxes, jumbo boxes, mega boxes, value boxes, top flagship. I'm excited for that. I mean, it's just. It's always cool opening the newest year. So it's kind of cool that it's flagship first too. I mean, I'm sure that was purposeful. Good job, tops. Good job, tops. This product, they had it first ran in 1957. And so one of the inserts, actually, they took the old 1957 art. And it's only going to be able to be found in this product moving forward. And I think it looks very cool. Like, I think they did a really good job in making it, like, iconic design. Yes, Looks great. So it's. They have like iconic moments from Zebra bowl and iconic players and their autos. So it's like one of the short prints that they're doing. Oh, that's cool. The Ring of Honor, they've done a lot of. And I can't keep up with. Once I start opening them and seeing them, my brain starts registering. I'm reading them like, and I get to like, you know, parallel number 47. And I'm like, okay, all right, I just gotta open. Once I start seeing them in rips, I kind of start to. I'll know more. Way more than I should. Kind of like I do with Topps Chrome Update right now and Signature Class Basketball. Like, I did rip those. I think my guy said there's over a hundred Parallels in Topps Chrome this year. Yu-Gi-Oh it's a lot. It's a lot. What if you're colorblind? Hey, I mean, I feel colorblind looking at them sometimes. Colorblind. You can still feel the imprint of the number. Oh, that's one out of 50. My thing is that, like, sometimes it'll be like gold and. But it looks orange or yellow or something and like, there's no recognition that it's a gold card versus just knowing. And that's, I feel, literally insane. Oh, we know. We deal with that a lot. A lot. Yu-Gi-Oh I'm sure. I'm sure that's like the bane of your. Of LEDX's existence. Orange, yellow, gold. Like, which ones? And they all look the same. And I like a guy, definitely note differences. I like a guy that reached out to us the other day and he was complaining about our parallels. And it was a silver, silver Prizm and it kept coming up red, red, red. And we look at the pictures, we're like, what color shirt are you wearing? He's like, red and so reflecting. It was reflecting off his shirt. And so he is. He's like, this is not a red parallel. I'm like, dude, you're reflecting your red off the card. How's the Yu-Gi-Oh know that? Like, they don't. Yu-Gi-Oh is not that smart. So, Yu-Gi-Oh parallels are awesome. Sometimes people don't use their head. Yes. No. It's funny, though. They like to complain, though, in this industry. Speaking of parallels. So I had an interesting. I did a Top Signature Class 20, 25, 26 basketball mega box versus a Topps Chrome update. It's obviously the newest set to see which one netted the best cards. And I will say I knew that Topps Chrome Update was likely more value. It's the hotter, newer set and being, you know, Chrome, just sort of the flagship of Tops. But they're both made by Tops after, when you get them on the table. And I'll have the. There's a video for this I'm putting out. You'll see that out on my channels and we'll have it maybe linked with this. So obviously pulled a. You know, I think it's a Ray Wave or X. This is X Factor. This is a Ray Wave of Khan and. And Cooper flag. Obviously, the players, I knew they were good, but then I pulled an out of 50 from the Signature Class. It's Michael. I always want to call him Williams. I think there's a football player that Michael Bridges from the knicks. Out of 50. Out of 50. No joke. And then a signal. I got an auto out of a mega box and it's just Spencer. I think it's done. Dinwiddie. Every name gotta remember. He. He'd be like I know every basketball player. Spencer would be right on the like the outside looking in if I'm being honest. But no offense, Spencer just you know, you're just kind of like right out that cusp. However I've heard of him. Otto, you got Refractor. So an auto and out of 50. And I know they're not con and Cooper, so I knew these were more. Does anyone want to guess in our panel here of two, like the spread difference between what's on the table like as a percentage or even just a guess on values. Anyone? You go first. Brian. I say, I say it's 1 1/2 x con and Cooper. All right. And it's out of 275 on the con by the way. 2 1/2 x. I mean I'd probably agree with that. What is out of 50? I mean I'd guess these cards are the signature class are less than a hundred dollars. So 30x is the difference. 30x the Con and the Cooper are right at $300. Yu-Gi-Oh And the it's 1 100. It's like 175 and 100 like 275 and Yu-Gi-Oh Do the math from there it's like 10 bucks. Yu-Gi-Oh 10 bucks. 10 bucks for the auto and the out of 50 like this. They're like 5 bucks each maybe. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Because I. I mean I was thinking I was going through our five dollar bin and, and comping some cards and seeing what they were at and I probably pulled out a handful that were the signature class and you know, out of 50 or out of a hundred, whatever. And I mean look, you got the two of the hottest rookies. You got several things going for it. Newest, you know, release two of the hottest rookies. Good. Parallels a numbered one. So like it, it was going to be a lot. Yu-Gi-Oh I knew that but I just Goldin believe like it's less about what these were worth. More like. Oh God, what were you thinking like when you pulled like what would your guess would have been? I would have guessed based. I know these sets really well. I knew. Well, I. You know a little bit of leading the. The whole thing. Like I once I knew what I had, I Kind of. I would not have guessed quite the spread. I was thinking like 20 bucks for that. I mean, if you're at a 50 and you're not worth $20, like, and that's low. Like if it's anybody. And he's a pretty good player too. He's a good player. He's not like, this is not. It's a good player. Just wanted national or national title, NBA title. And then even Dunwoody, he's not a scrub either. And it's his auto and it's apparel and it's a Refractor and it's like five bucks each. Come on, man. Those guys both will make over a hundred million dollars in the NBA. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yes. And my issue is like, art wise, I think the signature class looks 30 times better than the update series does. Yu-Gi-Oh There's your 30x again. There you go. Yu-Gi-Oh everything's 30x. These autos. Like, that's like the design of the roses. Like, that's kind of carried through several of the inserts. The manuscripts is what it's called. I think the X factor is one of my least favorite. Know what this is? Yes. I. I don't like the way they look. I. Personal. Maybe that's personal preference. I just really don't. I don't like the way she disseminates. Do you like the Ray Wave? Yu-Gi-Oh no, I do. I don't mind that one. Lava kind of look. Yu-Gi-Oh it's really just the X factor. I don't. I think it make. The Checkerboard makes it. I don't like it. The card. Yu-Gi-Oh I agree. I don't know. It's just not my favorite. I hope they stay up in value though. At least. I saw them. These will be available on the collectorstation.com on the website. Excellent. Shameless plug. But they will be. Or our ebay. Send us an offer. Yu-Gi-Oh ebay. Ebay live. You know. Yu-Gi-Oh put them on ebay. Live underscore. Com. Yu-Gi-Oh Speaking of Eli Bay Live, we did our first two live streams. Yep. First one was. There was a couple hiccups. We learned from our mistakes on the second one. Yu-Gi-Oh but Yu-Gi-Oh it was. It was fun and exciting. Yu-Gi-Oh Good turnout. I mean, Bella, do you have. Are you gonna be the breaker? Are you gonna do it? Um, no. I'm the admin and yapper. Okay. The admin and the yapper. The rapper and the yapper. Yu-Gi-Oh But not the breaker. Yep. No, I think everybody's gonna kind of try their hand a little bit just. Cause we're kind of figuring out, like, where the audience is and what's doing. And I think Bella will be on screen in some way for the majority of them when she's available. But I think it's like, you know, we're kind of just figuring out our audience, and I think we've got a few things up our sleeve to kind of keep things moving and interesting. Yu-Gi-Oh Takes time. Yu-Gi-Oh I did pull this arch manning, too. I forgot about that. I was gonna. Yu-Gi-Oh That's kind of cool. That's the red ice. Ryan. Red eyes. You. It's like crazy, the. The things you pull. I mean, good things happen to good people. He's living right? Yu-Gi-Oh Where's my good karma? I don't know. I think you gotta look yourself in the mirror and by now, check it out. I think it must be something wrong with me, truly, because, like, still. And maybe it's just volume. Like, he's obviously showing us. I only opened two last night. Okay. Well, Yu-Gi-Oh that was it. It's fine. Volume does matter. For sure. It does. It matters. It's been good lately. I can admit that. It's not always that good. Got a hot hand. Talk about it. Yu-Gi-Oh Still talk about it. Yu-Gi-Oh It goes back the other way too fast. Believe me, I've been in the. Yu-Gi-Oh no, no Good club many, many more times. So we're going to keep the karma and the chi high. Brian, is there anything fun happening over in Lud X land? Yu-Gi-Oh. What do we got? Released some more updates to the app and released more to the web. It's still in beta, but it's getting close, everyone. So what kind of updates? Check it out. Sort and filters on the web. It's pretty cool. Like, I have 5,000 cards and I could find, like, my Jordan's worth between 25 bucks and 50 bucks. And then I could take those and share those with people if they're interested. I could then eventually trade them with people and people can make offers on them. So we are working towards that at Lux, in Lux Land. All the. It's funny, like, you know, you get the core of, like, an. Of, like, functionality, and then it's like the 700 add on things, you know, like, that make it better and great, but it also just takes time. Yu-Gi-Oh it's more fun, though. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Like, once you get building the foundation, like those guys who build the house and they put those studs up, then that's not fun. No, no. The decorator has the most fun. Exactly. Because then you start seeing it because the foundation is like well, it's there, but it doesn't really do anything. But it's set up to do things. It's true. Yu-Gi-Oh Oh, how about you guys? One last thing I have for on our side. Ryan might have some more, but I found out this morning that the collector that got The Cooper flag 101 is from Clover, South Carolina. Yu-Gi-Oh Is that. That's like maybe an hour from us. Isn't that so fun? Awesome. Could have been. You could have been. For a measly, he only paid $500. $515. Break. There you go. Hey. But Yu-Gi-Oh little old Clover. It is a very small town. Sounds like a friendly town. I know Clover. It's a. It's like right outside of Charlotte. Yu-Gi-Oh Right next to Fourleaf. Yu-Gi-Oh Leper Leprechaun Street. Dad joke. Rainbow Road. Yes. I don't think I have any more updates. Okay, the. The collectornation do. Check it out. Some of the news we talked about today. And of course, lud x LX in the app store. We have. We have. It was back. Me and my buddy Tim, we always go hat backwards bros. I was hat backwards today. So Brian was. We were ludx hat bros today. That's a good backwards hat. This is a good backward. Why didn't you grab one? We had like 7,000 of them at the national. I didn't think about it. Yu-Gi-Oh I now have a collection of Julia. I'll have Julia send you a couple. Oh, good. Okay. Well, that's all from us. Go check them out. Lodex in the app store. Best card, scanning, collection management, all that stuff. We love you, Brian. We'll see you next time. Much love. Much love. See you guys. Thanks again. See you next time. Thanks for tuning in to the show. Be sure to follow us on your go to podcast platform and catch the full video episode over on YouTube. Visit us@thecollectornation.com and follow Ryan on Instagram ryanalford. Now get out there and collect yours. 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