Are Pokemon Cards Due to Take a Dip? | The Hype #443

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We got some stats on some PSA grading cards and like, what they've, you know, what's happened after the slowdown on the tiers, the lower tier. So we're going to discuss that. Goodwin Champions checklist is out and it looks fantastic. So we got that to talk about. If you're going to Fanatics Fest, we will be there. And we got some free shirts. We're going to be selling some awesome singles chances at free breaks. So if you're going to Fanatics Fest at The Javits Center, July 16th through the 19th, come by and say hi to us. We'll be in attendance to see some of our fans and some of our longtime customers that will be going to New York, but still recovering from some soccer. You know, I, I didn't think that USA was going to win the World cup, but I didn't think that, uh, USA was going to go out that badly against Belgium. So what do you guys think? I mean, is there any hope? How long, how long is it going to take for USA team is like the 49ers. It's the best comparison I can have. Well, you'd have to win a World cup to be like the 49ers. That's a fair point. Yeah. I mean, okay, they're like the 49ers of the last 30 years. No, but we've went to the Super Bowl. They didn't go to a World cup final. Yeah, fair. So grass straws here. Yeah. For the comparison. The main takeaway here. Okay. They're the Cleveland Browns of the World Cup. Okay, that's fine. There you go. There you go. The, My main takeaway Is simply this training camp is upon us for the NFL. Real football has begun. Oh, yeah, don't even start. Once again, don't even talk about baseball. Hey, at least the Giants. The Giants put on a display last night. I was all sad about the USA game. Turn it over. The Giants. Helio Ramos had in like an inside the park little league home run, and then he had another home run. 16 gains below 516. Well, no, no, they're 14. 14 games below. I mean, that is a new benchmark of success. Their trick this year is every time they are at 15 below, they never go further. Oh, that's. Every time they see 50, they go, oh, can't go to 60. Are you telling me at the end of the year when they're all sitting around going, okay, let's. Let's go ahead and figure out how this year went. Well, we never. We never would drip dip below 15 games over 500. Let's or under. What a. Let's actually to the season ticket holders next year, let's start with that. Yeah, let's just be like, hey, we never went. Beer might be 18, might be 18 a beer, 14 a hot dog. But we never went 15 games below.500. Bullpen gives up 12 runs a game. But it's a beautiful ballpark. Yep. Beautiful ballpark. Yeah, I'm getting a lot of the. I think we might have talked about it on the podcast, but I have been. It's just gaining steam. The. Is this becoming Wrigley Field west, where it doesn't matter how good the team is, you're still gonna get 75 of that place full because the vibes are good. The ballpark's beautiful. The food's good. Vibes aren't good. Well, you. You need to play decent baseball for vibes to be good. Vibes aren't bad. I mean, I've been on a Saturday afternoon when you're not. If you. And you're like, I don't really care about the game. I'm just enjoying the sights. I'm going down the Coke SL with the kids. I'm getting my hot fudge deli. Oh, look at the hour to get Bay. It's beautiful. Oh, what's the score? It's 13 to 2. Other team. All right, whatever. Go in the batting cage downstairs. It's a tourist attraction. It is. I mean, it's in it. Cool. With that attitude, they'll never put a good team on the field. That's what I'm saying. There is a fear of, like, is this setting in where this is like ownership is like, we're going to make our money, you know, and I, I would agree with you on that. But they're, but I mean, easily in the top 10 in the salary. So like they're going out and spending the money and they're still in the top 10 in attendance, which regardless of the record, so much worse. Yes. Because I wish they were just a team that didn't spend any money and it would be easy to be like, okay, well, they're bad because they are in the bottom 20% of salary, but they are in the top 5% in salary. They need to win some more baseball games. Yeah. All right, so, but back to, you know, we're going to Fanatics Fest and, and you know, when, when France and, and Argentina are playing in the finals, I mean, who do you guys have? Do you guys have France or. I mean, they're probably going to have all the Argentinian refs there as well. I mean, this is Messi's last World Cup. We got to go ahead and, you know, market this. We got to sell more Adidas shoes. You know, we've got to make some more money for FIFA with Messi because they obviously don't care about the greatest of all time. Ronaldo, who just played his last game, although there is the next World cup is in Portugal. So maybe, maybe at the age of 45, he comes pretty good. Boppy. Boppy is pretty good. I mean, it just the, the absolute craziness of what happened today with Egypt and taking away that goal is. It's hard to not think that things are a little swayed in favor of Messi who's. You know, when you compare goats, when you compare Messi and Ronaldo, Messi has always played with good players. He's been on Barcelona with the best players of all time. So I mean, yeah, he does have a World cup champion. Good players on the, on the Miami team he's on and the mms. Well, is there any good? There only needs to be one for that team, but there are actually a few former former Europe, you know, former stars of better leagues, sorry, mls that are on that team. So I mean, yeah, I mean, at one point it was like Neymar. Wasn't Mbappe on that team too? No, not on, on psg. Right. Oh, psg. Yeah. Yeah. So he's always played. She had. Yeah, he's always played with like the all. He's like the. Been on the Yankees of every soccer team he's played on. Yeah. So now, you know, potentially going down Three to one against Egypt. Do we wipe away? We wipe away. Are you. Are you. Are you trying to say that Messi isn't the greatest to ever do that? He's the KD of soccer. I mean, I. Look, I'm Portuguese, so am I actually found out yesterday. No, I went on my answer. You know how ancestry, you know, it adds more data. 2% Portuguese. Hey, so 2. 2. It's funny because I went from 20 to like 50. Hey. So I. Wow. I. I mean, look, might as well start. But in Portuguese. Yeah. No, I. I love. I love. I love Linguisa. Linguista's good. Linguist is the really the only thing they truly got everything. Everything else. I mean, there's. There's a lot of good food. Yeah. A lot of it's very. Yeah. Well then you're not true Portuguese. No. Black. Black licorice. Black licorice soup. It's terrible. She never had it done the right way. It's just soggy, soggy bread soup. It's disgusting. It could be done. Yeah. I mean, I do want to go to my homeland for this World cup though. You know, the 2%. Yeah. 2% of you, surprisingly, in my last name. My last name was. I was as Irish and I'm only like 7%. Yeah, it makes sense. It's weird either. Yeah. I've actually. I think I actually have Belgium in me too. So I could have been celebrating last night's win over the usa. I just as well. I would have to. I have to really learn Portuguese if I was going to go to Portugal. Right. Because I have a feeling that I. They would. They would probably talk to me in. In their native Portuguese language and probably. I mean, English is spoken a lot over there as well. I mean, especially if you go to the world. If you're going there for the World cup, you're going to be amongst a lot. Yeah, you're going to. Especially in like the larger cities. Like you're going to get a good. Like Lisbon, you know, wherever you're going to go, I'm sure that's where the games are going to be held is in Lisbon. I'm assuming there will be some in there and then you'll have. Obviously Spain is hosting part of it too, so Barcelona, Morocco. So are we doing that again? Are we. Are we going to have multiple countries? Yeah. So it's Morocco, Spain, Portugal, which are all like close to each other. Yes. If it's just weird, Morocco's. Yes, close. But they're. But they're in Africa. Right. But it's just next to it. I was gonna be like, very close again. I, I don't, I don't know, I don't know where these countries are, but I've, I didn't, I didn't know Morocco was in Europe. Literally. Here, look. Oh, look at this. I've got a map. Like, I'm gonna show a map right now, folks. A globe. Yeah. Let's go, let's, let's, let's go to the map. I've got it up there it is Spain, Portugal, Morocco. And you can see Gibraltar, the Rock of Gibraltar, which is actually part of English. And it doesn't connect, believe it or not. The Rock. Gibbletar, kibbletar. Does Boppy play there too? So there you go. They are all, it's, it is the, it's to, to make an American example. It's the tri state area of Europe, essentially. I do, I actually, I love that I, they do it going forward. I, I, I like the idea of having multiple host countries. I like it too. Spread the love a little bit. Yeah. It also probably logistically makes things easier for stadiums. Sure. Because you don't. Especially after what happened in Qatar in 2022 and there was lots of controversy about the way those stadiums were built. Well, and Russia, I believe, when Russia hosted it, like, I believe there's a bunch of abandoned. Oh yeah. Stadiums. Oh, yeah. That they have. Really? No, it happens every Olympics as well. Happens every Olympics. So, like, I, I love it. It's actually taking a lot of the financial burden off of the countries and giving more people an opportunity to go to a, Go watch your team in like a, in a home stadium. Because I think that was probably one of the best things about the US Having host games is having the US team, like the fans being able to watch the US team at home. Yeah. And, and just to get all the other cultures to your stadium. Like, when I saw Jordan in Algeria and kind of could be exposed to their culture, I thought it was really cool. Do you guys think that, you know, since Messi's gonna, you know, get a World cup this year and he's gonna win another championship, do you guys think it's smart to buy him now? Or do you think he's already at his peak? Oh, I'm buying Harry Kane. Cause it's coming home. I'll tell you right now. I. Sir Harry. It's coming home. Sir Harry. My favorite, my favorite player with his void, with his voice gone in that. That was great. Actually. That reminded me of my last national at a, at a Fanatics dinner. I lost my voice and he, he's powering through it, man. He's relatable through adversity. Yeah, relatable. Is that who we want? Do we all want to win? England to win? If I had to root. I just don't even know my Norway, though. Norway is actually pretty exciting. And the bummer about that is they're playing England and if you do want. Yeah, exactly. At least one of them is going to win. And yeah, I. Sir Harry and I think no matter what, though happens. You mentioned it. The true breakout star of this World cup is Erling Holland. The fact that fans have been where he didn't get to be in the last one, this is the first time he's been on the world stage. He's having a blast. He's. He's like, on Snapchat. He just discovered it. And it's like talking to fans on there, making memes of himself. He's just walking the streets of major American cities with a cowboy hat. He's totally, like, leaning into all of the goofiness about him and all the things that people say about him and having a blast with it while also performing at the highest level. I also, I also believe that, like, so the US Song of choice, like, we. Like the, the John Denver tune, like, very good. I, I, Whoa. Well, I like it. I would hope that we can do better. Really? That's a good song. That's a good one. It's a good chance. What. What else do I want? Anything. Anything? Anything. Anything. Come on. That. Dude, the song is so good that Jelly Roll and MGK made it again and it was a number one hit. That's how good the song is. You're telling, you're telling me that's the best we got? This is a tough hill. What do you want? Okay, so, okay, discuss. What song would you want? Oh, Living on a Prayer. Oh, that's a. That's a better one. No. Should we just go with every sports team and do Mr. Bright? I mean, I'm surprised we didn't do, like, Neil Diamond. Sweet Caroline's a little. It's a Dodger song, dude. Sweet Caroline's a little. That's a Red Sox. And, I mean, yes, it's like the next one, but I think it's had its moment. Like, we're done. It's had its moment. Country roads have it. Yeah, Country Road. That's a good one. Okay. It's got a great. Now England's got it dialed it. I mean, because I got. They got This I agree with. They got Wonder. This I agree with. I mean, you know, I mean, Country Road is the wallflowers. One headlight for the U.S. see, my, my first pick is Country Road, but if I had to pick a second one, it would be People Equal Shit by Slipknot. I think that's, that's, that's what we got to go out there for. Sure. Especially like after last look, they played at the Iowa State Fair. No. Few more American institutions than the Iowa State Fair. So. Also not just from Iowa. Right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, maybe, yeah, just maybe a little sick or eyeless or, you know, schism. Let's just go Wonderwall, man. Yeah. What do you think about Wonderwall? I mean, they can't even get together to play that song anymore. Oh, they did. They patched it up. They patched you a huge deal. Yeah. They're back. They're back. I didn't hear. Yeah, bank account got a little light. Had to go out there. Yeah, you gotta go to men fence. I think I saw Noel Gallagher. He's, he's always worth a follow. He's very, very funny. During, before the Mexico game, he apparently misheard everyone complaining because, saying, why are all these fans complaining about the attitude in Mexico? I've been there. They're lovely people. Why are we all complaining about their attitudes? And then someone replied, we're talking about the altitude, mate. Like, oh, yeah, altitude. Yeah, Yeah. I have a question for you guys. Like, this is, this is something, it's music related, but the Beatles. Okay, yeah, I'll just throw it out. The Beatles over. We're the, if you're about to drop. No, no, no, no, no, no. I, I just have a question. Like, were the Beatles a lot more popular in America than they were England? No. Are you sure? I, I, I don't, I think it eventually became equal. I think if you were to have a conversation with people who are from England, they would probably recognize more of Oasis is like their group. I just think. Oh, I think they would look at the Beatles and go, they were a boy band that America really took a hold of. And they're probably more into the Stones. Counterpoint. No. Okay. No, no, no. Counterpoint. Okay. I think, I think you just. Because I think you just love the Beatles so much. I feel well versed in the subject. I think the whole narrative with Oasis was they are the next Beatles. Which to me. And that was in England. That wasn't here. It seemed over to here. But that starts, we need somebody we need somebody who has lived their whole life. We need. We need a Brit too. Because I am. I am confident that we in America love the Beatles more than the. Far more than England loves the Beatles. Yeah, they're barely make my Mount Rushmore for. You know, I got like the. If you talk about bands from England, you got gorillas, you got Blur, you got Blur. Blur. Hey, there's probably somebody. I'm saying that. Tongue in cheek. Here's, here's. This is where I stand on why they're still bigger in the uk, but yes, they are. Are you. No doubt about it, but you think they are as big as big. I would say there was a point where they reach to a point where it's as big and mania was coined as an American thing. Right. Now, is this before or after the. The second McCartney came in to play? Oh, yeah, both. Yeah, we're. We're on McCartney number three. That's why he released McCartney three just a few years ago. I mean, that's an announcement of. Now we're on to the third guy. It's not like I went crazy and was like, obviously Wings is better than anything the Beatles ever did. I mean, look, I've been revisiting a lot of Wings and look, it's a, like, deserves a lot more respect. Is wings a UK ban Wiggs was a Paul McCartney. It really was more just like him and Linda McCartney just making some music with some other friends at some point. But, you know, but yeah. Anyway, if you go to the, the, the Beatles 1 album which has all their number one hits, I would. There's a lot of those number one hits where they only went number one in the UK and it's not just the early stuff. It's like stuff later on. Well, maybe it wasn't distributed correctly in the, in the U.S. true. I, I don't. I. I mean, they're no Rick Springfield, you know, so. Sure. Rick Springfield is like a living legend. You see that guy? He looks great. He's like 75, still touring. He does look good. Jesse's Girl, man. He does. Like, wasn't he on General Hospital? Isn't he an actor? Beats me. Rick Springfield. Rick Springfield, I think. I think he was on. I. I think he was on a soap opera. I think he's on General Hospital at one point. Living Legend. Living legend. Does he have. Yeah, I mean, who. Does he have any other songs besides who does. The ufo I got. I got. Okay, how about anything instead of John Denver? Anything from the John Cougar Mellon Camp catalog as As, I mean, that is Americana, right? Sure. So, I mean, anything. I don't know anything. I'm having a tough time. I don't know. I can't. You cannot deny that John Cougar Mallencamp has some bangers. Well. Well, they're at the far superior than John Denver Road in terms of iconic and, you know, pink houses. No, come on now, let's not. Come on, let's not kid ourselves here. Anyway, well, let's get to this PSA talk. So get back on track. I mean, the musical music, the music was fun to talk about, but slap mania sweeping the hobby. 2026 first stats reveal collectors grading more than ever. Dive into this a little bit for us, Cody. Yeah, so this was a lot of new information came out over the weekend, just about where we're at with grading statistics, where we stand. Because especially after a month of taking away value pricing for psa, there's maybe a little bit of like, well, let's look back and now see. Is anything really change? Well, this is where we're at six months into the year to start 2026, 17.5 million total cards graded only. I say only. But when you Compare it to 17.5 million, only 5 million of those are sports cards. This obviously leads me to kind of a broader point of what's going on here. But the other thing you're starting to see, Beckett grading is up 41% compared to the last six months of 2025. CGC is up 31% from that same time frame as well. And I believe that PSA as well said that quote. While submissions from the spike we saw following our pause announcement are still arriving, we have received fewer than anticipated. Our operations team is working overtime and weekends to ensure continued progress because they have announced that they have shrunk their backlog from 14 million to 12 billion. So they've not 2 million off that number. So it's. It just shows. I don't really think anything stopping this right now. And maybe the value submissions helped to shrink that number or taking it away helped to shrink that number a little bit. But it does seem like very little is deterring folks and they are finding alternative options right now. I. I have a. The big takeaway that I just immediately re reacted to that info because I hadn't seen that until now, is if you're a Pokemon collector and you just collect the cards and you're grading them and you're going to keep them forever, that's fine, whatever. It doesn't matter. Value doesn't matter. But I would suggest looking at pop reports on your cards that you've just recently got graded and seeing if it's at an all time high right now in thinking about unloading them before the bottom drops out. Because there is. We're saying that out of 12, what was that statistic again? So 17.5 million cards have been graded already this year and 12 million of those were exactly. Were Pokemon cards. Exactly right. Or tcg, which you would have to think a substantial amount less than three times. Yeah. So for everybody, two and a half there, there. For every one sports card there's two and a half. Which you know, includes, includes one half a card. But you know what I mean. Which includes Lorcana one piece, you know, all these other. I would again. And you're right, I do believe that it's gotta be 90% Pokemon. Sure. Or at least 75 at the, the. I think it's probably. I. Dude. But that's what I'm saying. If we fast forward and when we say sports card, like sorry to cut you off, but if we say sports cards, is that. Is entertainment lumped into that? So I think entertainment is lumped into the tc. I don't know if it's lumped into tc. There's been a lot of Disney that's been. Right. And there's been a lot of like Marvel and stuff like that. So like where does that get put into this? Right? That's, that's. That's a hard equation. Maybe, maybe there's so few of them. I mean really we only have like five or six sets that are out right now in this first year between like Disney Chrome and Pixar. And all this stuff is probably not that it means some Star wars stuff, but there's probably not a lot of sets to contribute too much to that number. But yeah, I mean if you're looking at a car that has a pop, like some of these cards have like a pop like I think umbreons and things like that. They have like a pop kind of like 50,000. So like. Yeah, well here there's a gigantic sell off like if something happens where you know, demand weans and we're back to you know, sub 2000 and 20s of. Of of gaming cards. These cards are going to drop by 90%. I is prediction. But like I said, if you're not a flipper, if you don't sell your cards, if you just collect and it doesn't even matter. But if you're looking at. If you're one of those people that Are like you're bonding. You bought it at a certain price or you got it graded. You got to be worried about these numbers. Are these numbers going to be able to continue to grow? I, I, it's hard to, it's hard to see that this bubble doesn't burst at some point on some of these certain cards. Now I know one piece, some of those are serial, not serial numbered. There's, there's, there's not a finite amount. But we know Pokemon can continue to reprint because they don't have anything serial numbered. So they could do more and more waves of certain products. There could be more and more pops being added into your cards. And right now, frankly you have a kind of a heyday of time for those sub five hundred dollar cards for, for, for tcg. Right. Nobody's grading those cards right now. So it's kind of helping your population at the, at the moment. But maybe when that low tier opens back up, there's going to be a flood. And you may see pop Counts that are at 50000 now go to like a hundred thousand because people are going to be waiting to that 49.99 to come back and play and then they can submit their 500 card again. They're not doing that right now. So just stuff to think about. If you are seriously investing and you're, you know, I hate to use the invest word, but there's a lot of people that are doing that that these cards are gonna, there's just too much of them out there right now. Here's a look, by the way, I just looked up Pokemon on card ladder on their, on their ladder index and just organized by pop count. That Pikachu with the gray felt hat, which I think a lot of people looked at that as like, oh, this is going to be one of the greatest. The van, the Van Gogh. The van Gogh. A PSA 9 full art 53,000 on the pop count, 49,000 with the PSA 10. And you could see here so there's more sirs, a Charizard ex out of Scarlet and Violet. 48,000. Another shiny full art out of Sword and Shield, shining Fates, Charizard 35,000. The list goes on and on that Pokemon 2000 the movie which I should have held on to that card. 29,000. I remember getting that in line for the movie. What a fool I was to just popcorn. And then on, on that you see a lot of 2023, 2022, 2021. Yes. There's got to be a lot more being made now, too. So surprising. 25 fantasmal flames, Sir Mega Charizard, 25,657. In comparison, the Luca PSA 10 base prism has just over 20,000, which we, I think can all say is maybe one of, if not the most graded modern basketball card right now. Zion. That's why it's really almost impossible to, like, I know we're buying and selling Pokemon singles in the shop here, but it's almost impossible to comp, because you can have 100 sales of the same card in one day because there's so many out there. Right. And I think that's what you see, like, the fluctuation of the market is so dramatic. Yep. Because there's just so many transactions. So many transactions happening right now. So just. Yeah. I mean, if you're. You're collecting for the love of the game and you don't ever sell, then don't even worry about it. But if you're worried about, like, your $100,000 investment in all these Pokemon singles, you have. Yeah. Maybe time to consider, you know, by the end of the summer here that you might want to get these things turned into some cash. Yeah. In comparison, I just looked up Prism, most graded Prism cards of all time. And there you go. Victor Webanyama is now number one. The base PSA 10 pop count, 27,000. Surprising Zion number two. Zion number two. Jamarant number three. Luca number four. So that all sounds about right. All PSA 10s. Then we just had to get another Zion in there. And then you got Trey Young in there as a PSA 9. A LeBron 2019 PSA 10 at 13,000. That's definitely your peak of kind of what we're seeing with Pokemon right now, of just like, I gotta get my year 20 LeBron or my year 19 LeBron graded, which, you know, it's a little bit easier to predict these pop counts because these sets are made with autographs and serial numbers, so they can't keep reprinting them. Right. Which Pokemon. They can. They could never stop. They could. They could make a set from a couple years ago. I. I don't know the rules and regulations. I'm not saying that they would go back and print something for 20, but we've seen it with Phantasmal Flames. They've ran that thing several times. We just got a restock about a month and a half ago of apparently the last wave of Phantasmal Flames. And, yeah, we sold it out in, like, a week, which is crazy, but it's just like you see the prices on the Luca, like, 90 to 100 bucks, right? But yet a Charizard that has triple the pop count is selling for $2,000. Well, here. Look at the. I mean, we were there. Remember the Zion? Look at. I mean, here's the chart back in 2021. There it is. I mean, that's based on performance. I mean, Charizard. Charizard's not gonna get an AC. And I. I'm just like 900 bucks for that card. Time to buy. $15 for that same PSA 10 base. Rookie Zion. It was nine. No better time to buy than right now. 15 bucks. Maybe that jaw. Now he's in Portland. I don't know. 24 bucks. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there's anybody that it's out there trying to get rich off of Pokemon, because, I mean, you don't see Kevin o'. Leary. He doesn't have a Charizard around his neck. You know, like, he's going after one of one pieces that are only. But it does. The pop count does. So you hear at least local shows, and you hear this a lot, that, like, a lot of sports collectors are complaining that they go to a local show and it's 90 Pokemon. Right? Well, why do you think it's 90 Pokemon? Because there's so much more that stuff readily available, so much more easy to acquire. Exactly. The point at. At the. The inch. The. The price point of getting some Pokemon packs is still substantially cheaper than getting almost any sports card release. Yeah, absolutely. So it's. And, yeah, it's definitely more affordable, and that's why I think you're seeing so much. But it's. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out with. With how long this. I mean, obviously, I. I want. I want this to continue to, you know, be successful and. And growing collector bases for years to come. But that's kind of like a reality that, I don't know now past has never worked. Now what. And I think this is, like, the. The natural progression to this is that at some point, Pokemon's like, we're gonna serialize some of these cards. If they do that, I think there'd be a little bit of an uproar. 100. Because all the people that are holding on to these cards that have pop counts of 50,000, you're gonna see those Pokemon collectors going, well, I want the Pikachu. That's number to 199. And I know and I know the. The pop count will be. And. And that is the One thing that I think can truly tank the modern day Pokemon market that we are they could. I've talked to a few more people about this because I've been curious about it too. I've talked to some people that have been more involved in the Pokemon scene than me and they say that they, they, they do truly believe in the gameplay of the thing. So they, they won't head down that route. If they ever did. It would have to be desperate times, right? It would have to be like this whole thing is dead and we need some kind of idea to bring people Magic the Gathering kind of do that though they came out with their collector boxes because they're behind, they're losing. Like they're already losing to. But when at some point like there's ebbs and flows to every market, Pokemon will have to figure out new ways to appeal to an audience. And that is the low hanging fruit is to make short printed and you can make it as like a premium box. Like what in what. What Magic the Gathering does. I just think if they did that like it would negatively affect the current Pokemon. Pokemon market as we know it. Yeah, it would, it would 100 affect that. It would be wild. I mean I think breakers would be happy about that. Well, everybody be breaking Pokemon. Everybody would be breaking Pokemon. But I think that they're so protected and they'd have to have like a couple years now of just sets that never. Could you imagine if they made a Pokemon set that guaranteed something. I mean it can be crazy where like every box you get a card number to 199 or less. Well this is the thing. Just something even like that, you know, you know how much they can print and do you know what they can literally charge MSRP out of the gate for a box like that print money. It could thousand dollars a box and. And all you're going to be guaranteed is a card to 199. Dude, we went through like they like in comparison, Charizard is probably like Mickey Mouse, right? Like Charizard is the face of Pokemon. They were like a whole year without making a Charizard card and it was still on fire. Like they didn't even need to put them in there. Like they were able to create like you know, different umbreons and all these different, you know, different big hits that, that people love out of the Sirs and not even worry about using. Charizard also speaks to like the depth of, you know, the depth of the roster at this point for Pokemon that you can especially from the old School. There's been a lot of that of, like, going back to, like, the Gengar became really popular because that's a original character from the. From the original 151. But to your, to your point of what you're talking about, Dan, they kind of did this. I remember back that top set, the Pokemon top set that was out In, I think 2000 or 2001, where they kind of tried to do the like, well, it's not the game, but these are trading cards. Like, these are. These are like lower numbered cards. And there's different parallels and all this. And I remember it like, I remember getting those cards when I was really into Pokemon cards and thinking, this is crap. I dated this. We're in a different world now. Yeah, it's such a different world. Well, there's rooms. You brought that up. Yeah, because there's rumors of it's coming back. Because there's. And that's where I feel that voice. Are you talking 30th anniversary? Well, tops had some kind of Pokemon. Yeah, Tops, Tops Chrome of some sort. IP of Pokemon. So maybe that's where Pokemon's like, okay, cool. Yeah, we're not making it. We're letting them use the license. They can do 101s, all that stuff. And. And were protected. The time is right where I feel like at that time the Pokemon craze was so like, it's got to be the trading card game or nothing. Where I remember maybe. Maybe I was a minority in this, but I don't remember those. They did not take the same way. That like, oh, man, now would be huge. I think right now if a Pokemon Chrome came out. Be massive and a Pokemon Sapphire, it would be. It would be. I don't. We would think so, but I don't know. Like, these Die hards might be like, well, now my box is $1,000. I don't care for stuff. I think. I think, though, if you. As long as you keep offering the original. The original TCG and it's still the same thing at the same price. And you're offering especially because you've. You've crossed over now where people who are sports cards collectors are in on Pokemon as well, you are going to have. Those guys are going to eat that up and see it as an opportunity to be like, well, look at the. If you. If the return on investment on buying a Pokemon box is what it is a hobby, a booster box is what it is. Imagine me buying a hobby box of this Chrome stuff. It's going to be massive. Down the road. And, you know, I. I think now is the time. It's never been a better opportunity to do it. Yeah. And check out we're doing some Goodwin champions, not only on ebay live, but@mojo break.com. head on over to mojobreak.com and check out our schedule. Everything's scheduled, everything is available for purchase before the break. So grab spots where, you know, we're doing new finest. We've still got, I think, a little bit of World cup prism that we're doing. So if you want to get a new break, head on over there. You can Also use code Goodwin10 for 10% off your next order on mojobreak.com and that's valid through this upcoming Monday. So go ahead and take advantage of that. Goodwin 10 G O O D W I N 10 for 10% off your new order. FNAX just announced that Web and Yama will be at the last minute edition to the Fanatics games along with LeBron. On a side note, if you are Victor Webanyama, you can no longer. I mean, you're. He cannot be incognito anywhere. No. You know what I mean? Like, if you're, if you're Brock Purdy, you know, you can kind of wear a hoodie and maybe a hat, walk around Safeway. There's places he can go and be not recognized. Yeah, yeah. But Victor Webanyama, no. Any given Sunday on the field. All right, relax, Mr. Toyota. I mean, not everybody gets. I mean, he's barely recognized. He's out there. Nobody. Nobody cares. The thing with Wimpy too, is. Yeah. Even if you don't know who he is, you just look at him and go, well, that's someone. Like, you don't look like that and are just like, yeah, you know, I work at. I work at the used car lot. Like. No, you do. You do something. It happened in Vegas. It happened in Vegas with, with Wemby and the great Britney Spears didn't know who he was. That was a different time. She basically was like, I know you're somebody because that was a rookie year though too, right? So, I mean, he's a little bit. But even, even at that, right. I think like Wemby walks in the store right now, every single person stops what they're doing and just turns. Just based on the fact that, like, how do you see people in the world that are like, well over 7 foot tall? What's the clearance? What's the one. How. How tall is the. I'm just trying to figure out. I think they're ten foot ceilings. Okay. So yeah, we got about three feet or two and a half. I mean closer. He would be able to, he'd be able to lift up his arm and touch it. Oh yeah, he definitely touch it. Look, if we ever get some more lights out, it'd be great to call them and just fix it. Serious. Okay, can you grab that? I was thinking, could he like maybe be in a wheelchair? Like maybe like could that, could he be incognito that way maybe. But then he, you'd see the limbs and you're like, this guy is just a gigantic human. He's a huge guy. Because I, I remember seeing, we were at Disneyland, saw a gentleman that was seven foot and I was like, well, appeared to be seven foot, right? And I didn't get. I, I saw him from the back and I, and I didn't, I was like, okay, that guy's got to be somebody. And it was, it was, it was Brooke Lopez. There you go. So, I mean, and that's a guy that's way smaller than, than Wemby. I mean I think he's like 6:11 or 6:10 or something. Former Stanford. Great. Yeah. Yeah. So. But everybody knew who that guy was just based on the site. So I was just saying like, like Web and Yama walking around Fanatics Fest. If he does, I know he bought some Star wars cards at the last Fanatics Fest. Like you, you know when he's coming, we'll see about him walking around in New York City. I know it's, I know it won't all be New York fans there, but gotta imagine a few people might be coming with eggs ready to go. Well, they won. So I mean, you know, how, how much, you know, how much more could this guy take? Yeah, it's fair. He's. If, if somebody does that, he's like, dude, you guys won. Just, just relax. You got your, you got your title and LeBron will be at Fanatics Fest. And you know, obviously our rumors that we, we created amongst here is like, is the decision similar to Kevin Durant last year with the Rockets, is the decision of where he's going to be playing going to be held at Fanatics Fest? Yes. Thousand percent, yes. You're all in on that Because I even heard Rich Paul say, well, you know, don't expect a decision. This was about two days ago. Don't expect a decision anytime soon. He's, he's on his own time. He's gonna, he's gonna think about it and he's gonna come to his decision. Well, I give it about two weeks and. Oh, what comes up in about two weeks or about less than that now? Fanatics fest. It's happening. I mean, it's safe to say 100. Safe to say he's pro. I mean, based on the moves that the Lakers already made. He's. He's not coming back to the Lakers. He's not. I think. Did he officially say that he's not coming back to Lakers? He won't be a Laker. He told them to go ahead and revamp their roster without him in mind or something like that. So it's Lucas team now. It's Lucas. They went out and got, like, Kessler and like, Dave Austin, Reeves, the bag. Yeah, they. They. They basically went out. They have a new. They're going. They're a whole new team. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously we would love to see him as a Warrior, but I think from a media standpoint, the. The media win is the Cavs. Right. It's starting to sound like it's going to be Cavaliers, and I think they're even going to restructure James Harden. Harden's contract so that he can play alongside Harden. Donovan Mitchell, and frankly, with that talent, Jared Allen's still there. There's a lot. Evan Mobley, LeBron. That's a pretty enticing. Probably the best Cavaliers team he's played on. Yeah. By far, right. I mean, he had me. Had Kyrie and Kevin Love and J.R. smith, 2016. They did win a title, you know. Well, dream. I don't know. I. Him and James Harden together, though. We'll see. Like, I don't. I don't know how well that works, but, I mean, he does. He does love Steph. He does do a lot of things with Draymond. Him. And that's the. But him and Steph, I actually think they. They very well can complement each other very well on the court. Right. Where I don't know if Harden and LeBron really complement each other very well. And also not quite the same player he was even two or three years ago. I think he is definitely. And even with Mitchell there, Mitchell is the number one option on that team, and I don't think that changes with LeBron James. The one thing that gives me hope for the warriors is because at the end of the season, you know, we got knocked out and, you know, there was like, this could be Steve Kerr's last game, and he's hugging. Steve Kerr was hugging Curry and Draymond and all the warriors, and they kind of acted like they were Saying their goodbyes, and then all of a sudden, oh, Steve Kerr's back. Yep. So to me, it's like, did. Was that call made? And say, hey, I think LeBron wants to come here and he only wants to play for you. Right, Right. You know, kind of similar. You know, Bryce Harper was going to be a giant, but he only wanted to play for Bochi. That didn't happen. Right. So it's like, okay, you're gonna. Steve, if you come back for one more year, you know, LeBron's gonna come by, so maybe, you know that that's the only thing as a dubs homer. I also think that Draymond basically being open to restructuring his contract and saving the team money so they can go, I did that. He didn't do that. To make sure they're going to sign Kristaps. No. Or Demar like it. He. He wants. He wants LeBron there. Yep. I think. I think Curry wants LeBron. I think they all want LeBron there, and I think that's the push. And they're all friend. I mean, Draymond does. I think he's got the same. Does he have the same agents? He's. He's done a lot of things with LeBron Paul. Right. It's literally the decision is this, do you want to play with your buddies or do you want to go home? Or Philly is now the enticing third option of, like, that may be the best collection of talent that he could potentially play with, where he does fit in very well to their lineup and compliments it well. Whereas, you know, but I think it comes down to friends or home. Which one? Yeah. And lastly, let's talk a little bit about this 2026 Goodwin's checklist. It's a fun one. Let's go over some of the notables. I know we have a pict here of David Blaine and of course, the. The great USA Soccer star, Alex Morgan. Yeah, that's right. Women's team might have been able to beat Belgium, say, a USA team that can actually win. What a thought. I know. I. So the last couple years, I feel like I was low key. Like, man, Goodwin is. Is just not what it used to be. It's just not having the same oomph to it that it once did. This year, I feel like they're coming back around. I love this checklist. Has legit big names in it. I will throw out. This is a huge one for the kids. The voice of Rumi from K Pop Demon Hunters Arden Cho is signing in this one that is a big deal for the kiddos. I will just throw that out there. How about Alicia Silverstone? Nice signing in there. Clueless. Aerosmith videos. San Mateo's finest. Is that right? I believe. I believe. Wow. She definitely. Northern California. San Mateo or Sam Bruno or something. I did not know that. The Bay Area. San Francisco. Yeah. Wow. The Bay Area claims Alicia Silverstone. All the grades come from here. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I mean, she's the goat. I mean, look. Yeah. San Mateo High School. You had it right on the money. Yeah, I've. Yeah, I've. Good call. Yes. Elite. I know, I know. My Alicia Silverstone trivia. Anya Taylor Joy. Who? Another one. That princess. The voice of Princess Peach. So. And she's. She's a big star. Princess Peach in the. The Mario movies. The movies, Movies, movies. Bill Nye the Science Guy. David Blaine Cambrink, who signed a lot of upper deck stuff recently. Darren Fox, he's a regular upper deck stuff. Who else we got? George Lopez is in there. Freddie Prinze Jr. In there. The list goes on and on. Now, is there a Freddie Prinze and. And who's his wife? There's no. I don't. Sarah Michelle Geller. Sarah Michelle Geller on the. Too bad. Missed opportunity. Yeah, but then. And then you have a lot of the upper deck regulars. There is of course, still Michael Jordan autos in here. Dan. I do have to figure out if we have because we were talking about. I know Bubba Wallace is in here as fresh off of that new agreement 23 Michael Jordan race team. So that is going to be another big ad. But we don't. We don't know if anybody else from the 2311 I'm looking at here. Let me look it up right now. I mean, Tyler Reddick would be big. Well, he is indeed in there. Tyler Reddick and Bubba Wallace are the two included. Okay. For Yaxel Landenborg, who's just as he. Az Fudd, who's the number one pick in the wnba. So a lot of big notable names, I think. And of course, like I said, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, all the big ones you come. Tiger to expect. Tiger not in here. Interesting. Very interesting. But Jordan's a little busy. But Jordan's in there. Jordan is in there. Not with. Not under every single variation of auto. But like some of the biggest versions of them. William Shatner in there as well. Ben Simmons. William Shatner. Ben Simmons. No, no. Benjamin Simmons. Not Derek Lively in here. Derek Lively. No, no Derek. Kevin Love. No, Kevin Love. Not that I'm seeing no Kevin Love. They exhausted the memorabilia. Shout out also to Matt Stoney, San Jose's finest. Oh yeah, he's in here. They have multiple competitive eaters, including Joey. No, no Joey. Maybe his price point's a little high. A personal favorite of mine, which shout out to Tom in the Mojo Break gaming social media department. I felt like I was exposing myself by saying, hey, do you know this guy Badlands Chugs? He went, oh, yeah, man, I know Badlands Chugs. Who was just the recent winner of the lemonade chugging contest on the same day? Well, that's the one that, Is that the one that threw up at the end? No, not that guy. He was the winner who, if you saw him and he, he drinks and drinks and drinks and it's like two seconds it's gone and he just lets out this like. Yeah, it was actually, sadly, I always watched the hot dog contest. I sadly missed it because was there was a change of our 4th of July plans and, and we were hosting, so I, I had to barbecue and I had to clean the backyard and that was a busy day on, on Saturday, July 4th, so I missed it. But an absolute epic call out by the guy that runs the hot dog, you know, the guy that wears that, the derby hat when he announced Joey Chestnut, the undisputed, the undead, and just like, just went into this rant about Joey Chestnut and it was just majestic. I mean, because. Awesome. How many championships now? Fifteen, something like that. Sixteen, something like that. Eating. There's something only st beat him. There's something about eating the, the hot dog eating competition is, it's disgusting. It's revolting. Like I, there's something about when they're like dipping the, the bun in the water. Gross. That just, I mean, it's really gross. Like, but this man had a 20 hot dog lead. Like, he, he, he, he even close. No, he, he is, he's the greatest athlete ever. Did his sport do it ever? Well, yeah, you know, people, people laugh at it because it's an eating contest, but there's been nobody that, that's ever been able to even come close. But it's not. Yeah, he, he is so much better than the second greatest person ever to do it. He's just, it's like not. And how long can he do it? Let's put some respect on Kobayashi. That was, he was a dude. He was in his time. But we're talking, we're going on like 20 years of Joey Chestnut just year in. He doesn't have an off Year. No, he just. Unless he hasn't contractually obligated to eat to have a contract with a imitation meat. Yeah, yeah, but he just, he goes. He must have dropped that to be able to do this, right? Or I think he worked something out in his contract where he's allowed to do. He just goes out there and I mean, it must be terrifying, like, going in there and you're just like, I got no chance. I'll throw out one last thing. The bet was insane. It was like you had to bet like $100 to win, like, 50 cents on, like, on Joey Chestnut. Because it was like, it was like there was no point. And then people were taking the field and it was like, like, you're just wasting money there too. So there's like, no way to. For you, Cal. She betters. It was like, there's no way to probably how many hot dogs he eats. And that's, that's, that's really what it is. You just bet on that number and how long is it? 10 minutes. Yes, 10 minutes. So he is eating six. I think he had 65 or something like that. He's eating about 6.2, 6.1aminute. When I was watching the highlights, he had, he had like, think, think about, about that. Yeah. Like, I can't eat six hot dogs period, let alone eat six hot dogs. We did a video where we were asked how many hot dogs could eat in 10 minutes. And I, I said pretty confidently, 20. In 10 minutes? In 10. I think I'm taking it back now. That's a lot. It's a lot of hot dogs. If I hot dog a minute 10, I could probably do that. I, I might. These guys throw up afterwards, though, right? They have to. A lot of them do. I mean, do you guys think you can do the. Give me that. The. The 999 challenge? Yeah, I can do that. You go, oh, just. I'm built different. Yeah. But you know what? It's, it's not really, it's not really. Because they give you a talk hand for nine innings. Yeah. Or the new one where it's. They give you, they give you nine cups. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying, I'm saying you do it. You. You basically get a 16. You get. Right. Like a real beer. Nine. Sixteen. Oh, yeah. Because, I mean, the stadiums are selling them now. Yeah, they're doing it once, like, and they're, they're like little. They're like four ounce. Yeah. What do they call it when you get like a flight of beers. Like, it's that size. No, that isn't. That isn't gonna work. Yeah, and they're probably little mini hot dogs. Like, that's marketing. I'm talking like doing the real deal. Like nine real hot dogs. Nine real beers. I. 10 years ago. Yes. I. I don't think I can do. I think five and five would be. Would be a. A tough task. Spare me from being uncomfortable and having some kind of acid reflux when I go to bed. Spare me from that. I gotta throw out. This is the one more thing in Goodwin. This I just noticed is. I don't remember this being in previous sets. Legends of Rock, Cut signatures. Oh, listen to this. This is enticing. Jeff Beck, Brian Jones. Chester Bennington. Chris Cornell. I mean, the list goes on and on. Ryan Jones, Fats Domino. Hank Williams. Hank Williams what? Hank Williams, Senior. Senior. These are all. These are all cut autos. Ronnie James Dio, Diver Wilson Pickett. This is cool. It's a big list of 1 of 1 cut autos of rock. Rock legends. Brian Jones. Yeah. The Rolling Stones. Oh, yeah. Okay. Recently. Recently passed. Right. Well, I think we have Bobby Darren. Yeah, he's been in stuff. Oh, about. Yeah, Bobby, man. How about Tom Petty? Is he on there? He is not. He is not. But this is a very cool. That's. That, that's a really, really cool addition. And once again, I think this is like. Yeah, I'm all in. I'm excited for Goodwin. This is, I mean, the best looking checklist in a while. Like, like a lot of those cut autos are very, very expensive. Yes. Like Chris Cornell auto is. Is very expensive. Really, really expensive. Like a stone. So. That's right. Well, that's all we got for you guys today. We got a meeting to head out to, but come see us at Fanatics Fest. I think there will be another show before that, but come see us at Fanatics Fest July 16th through 19th. If you're in the Javit center area and you're in New York or you're already planning on going down there, come say hi. Also, uh, listen to the hype on Collect every Friday on the Collect Fanatics Collect app where you get your breaks, but you can also get your podcast there now as well. Live Fanatics on Collect. The Hype on Collect, where we go over clips of the week and different break hits, different controversies in the hobby and we almost do it like ridiculousness style. So join us every Friday for that. You can catch the replays over there as well as Mojo Break media as well. And we'll see you guys on the next hype piece.