eBay rejected GameStop’s Takeover Proposal… What this means for the hobby

It's pretty much that GameStop is not a good company and ebay's awesome. What happens when you get associated with meme stocks? You know, aren't they just sort of wealthy because of all that? Now they're in the sports card game, and they want to have a stake in it. So they knew ebay was going to reject it. But it's crazy enough that we're talking about it right now. In the end, it's a genius move to let people know that they're in the same business as ebay. So, Beckett, changing their logo and branding, how are they fitting PSA into that? PSA's, Beckett. I almost said PSA. I'll leave it there. Welcome to the Collector Nation podcast. Here on the Collector Nation Network, whether you're chasing grails or calling bluffs, we take you inside the hobby. Here are your hosts, Ryan Alford and Brian Lutton. What's up, guys? Welcome to collect your Nation here on the Collector Nation Network. You've got brb, Brian, Ryan, Bella. What's cooking, guys? Oh, you know, life. I just had some delicious chipotle that was cooking for me that Bella got for us. She cooked it right up. Yep. That's always a good lunch to put you to sleep. I. You know, I had the bowl, so no big burrito. It was. I had the big burrito. Oh, okay. And I said, I. Chipotle is great until it's really not great, and you just gotta stop eating. Well, I don't. I don't eat lunch. And when I do, I get so tired that I'm like, why do I eat lunch? I eat light now. I don't eat breakfast, so I have to eat lunch. But I eat like, I'm forcing. I'm in the lighter, lighter mode. I've dropped. I've actually dropped, like, 17 pounds less. You look great. Dang, you look great. You know? Hey, I appreciate that, Brian. I. I don't eat breakfast or lunch, and then I just. Dinner. You're crazy for that. I don't know how you're functioning. I would be a ball of anger. Well, no comment. Not just angry all the time. Yeah. Living that CEO life. Angry. Yeah. I don't get angry. Brian, what's happening? What's happening at Ludx Chicago? I mean, give us the Chicago, you know, sports scene rundown and Ludox rundown. So the. The baseball teams are doing well. Yeah. So I'm, you know, not a Cubs fan, but they're doing. They're. They're a nice team to Watch. Easy on the eyes. The socks are doing well, so I'm for them. 500. A little under 500. The Bulls got the number four pick in the draft. They should have had in six or seven, so that, that's good. And then just waiting for the weather to turn. We. We like, we've had such a yo yo. It's like, it goes to like 75, 80 and then it goes to 50. 75, 80, 50. So. So. And then Ludx, we're just, you know, we got some releases coming out, you know, with the eye towards the national for the big release, but we're migrating some of it over now. I showed you that super search, which is cool. And then the data. The data marketplace. And then just the new app. Just like Beckett released a new. A new look. Lux will release a new look, but they'll get more pub. Are y' all like literally like a new logo or like a new. Just new. This is the foundation of the app, right? Yeah, yeah, Just the whole overall experience with the UI ux. Yes, exactly. You know, User interface. User experience is what that stands for. And it just. What it means is the ease and comfortability of the app. Experience for a technical and non technical user. Yep, you got it. And then I got a. I got my new background. Yes. That's probably the most important part of it. We have Sir Goat, Sir Erinus, Michael Jordan, and yes, Brian and Ryan are actually in alignment on that. So if you don't think that's true, then that's your problem. You know what I found out this week about Pokemon? What? There's something called a God Pack, dude. We've had one ripped in the store. We've had four. Oh, four ripped. Yeah, I. And I ripped one with my son a few months ago. Oh, you got one. Those are pretty legit, dude. Yeah, One guy got a pack of ascended heroes. I believe it was that or prismatic. He got $3,300 in cards in one pack. And Cole, who $10 pack, was our store manager. He was going to buy that pack himself and open it and he chose to do a different pack. And then the guy was like, oh, I'll take that one that you didn't get. Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, Cole's still. Still recovering. He's like, I actually haven't opened my happy for Cole, but I'm happier than our customer. He's still. He's still in the corner sucking his thumb. Yeah, the. We'll sell more in the store since a customer got it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But, yeah, no, we've watched, there's. I've watched two or three in the store. We've had a hot store here lately and then I opened one at home. So, Ben, it's three or four in the last six months. And what's the, like, what's the chances of those? Like one in 10,000 or something like that. And again, I think it's three. Now I know it's two. I might be adding one, but I think it's three. Two or three. Two for sure. Yeah. I might be confusing mine and adding that to the number. Like. But we'll, we'll go with it just for hyperbole and promotion. It's better for the show. It's better for the show. Three God packs right here. But you know what always happens is every time me, the social media manager, pulls out a camera, nothing is pulled. And it, it's actually driving me up a wall. That's why we need 24.7ctv. That's why. That's if I can never finish these apps that's coming. Yeah, you have some cool stuff coming out. Yeah. Got collector station app coming and have baked into it some functionality that might be broader than just the app. If it does nothing but make our experience with customers. Because it's dual purpose. It's both for the users and our customers and for us in managing the store. So it's a dual purpose interface and I'm pretty excited about it. It's got a lot of things that, you know, I felt like we're probably missing. But then now owning a store for four months, I'm like, oh, yeah, they're definitely missing. You got to tease something. I'll just say I have a really interesting take on values that's never been done in the right way. And there you go. So. And whether or not I pull it off or someone else pulls it off and uses an API or like, it could be. It could become the TCG of sports card pricing. That would be amazing because we need that. We need it. And people don't realize that. You, you, you do a lot of tech. Like you, you, you are not scared of technology. You create some awesome things. Yeah. So I'm sure this is going to be just as awesome. He's got me going down the rabbit hole now. And I'll drink the Kool Aid and I'll, you know, I'll tease this. I tease it with Brian. Brian's gonna see more of it this week. But think operating system. I'll put you in that head space. So I'll leave it there. I don't want to get. I want to. Want to talk about it when I can actually, like, hold it up and, like, whatever, and. And I can, but I can't, because it's not. It's like, 94% ready for prime time. It's ready for Brian to po. Poke holes in it, but it's not ready for, you know, prom time. Bella, have you seen it? I've seen parts of it, bits and pieces. And, you know, he's. He's told me some. Some stuff, and I'm. I'm ever amazed every single day when he comes up with a new idea. I'm like, I don't even know where you. Like, I. I've realized that if it's one thing, I am like, give me a spreadsheet any day. But I like, the idea is just. I don't. I'm not. I'm not the ideal gal, so. But that's okay. You know, I'm learning my strengths and weaknesses. I have a very. I can distill and curate in my brain. It's what's made me good on, like, podcasting. Like, you know, some people might say, oh, you know, in a. Another life or whatever. I wasn't this, that or the other. But in podcasting, I can just, like, distill what people are saying, curate and, like. And that has proven very resourceful in this process and kind of like, thinking about things differently, like, kind of reverse engineering and thinking about, like, okay, we've always done this, but why didn't we do this? There's some very reverse logic things that I've put into this that are like, it's kind of like having a quarter and you never flipped it over to see that it had tails. And you're like, but it's always had two sides. And I think the people will be like, well, why didn't I think of that? Well, I don't know, but I did. Well, I think it's like, curiosity one. Yes. And then. And then also going back to Bella, you are not the way. You know, your spreadsheet. Ryan's idea. So good leaders surround themselves with people things that they're not. So I would have 100 guessed that what you are comfortable with of Ryan. Yup. Exactly. But, you know, it's fun. It's fun process. Yeah. And it's cool. It's all meta now. You know, it's in the hobby. We're talking about the hobby. You know, I have a friend that's a CEO running and doing things with data and who couldn't sound bored and tell me I'm crazy or I'm on to something, you know, and then, you know, we can put it into one big conglomerate and rule the world, even if our own mind. I want to rule parts of the world, like, you know, like Hawaii and Mexico beaches. Not Ukraine or I Iran or anything. Yeah, no, that's her. Speaking of ruling the world, GameStop will not be ruling the world because ebay officially rejected their shocker takeover, their takeover attempt. And they listed six factors as to why. And to sum them up, it's pretty much that GameStop is not a good company and ebay is awesome. Well, there's, there's. Knowing the ebay people I do, I'd say there's probably some truth to that. I like all the ebay people I know. Yeah. They said uncertainty regarding GameStop's financing. Yeah. What happens when you get associated with meme stocks? You know, like Covid. Well, I mean, it's like in there. Aren't they just sort of wealthy because of all that still? Like the, the Reddit, the Robin Hood, it. Yeah, exactly. I mean, is there, isn't there some wealth or some value associated still from that? Brian? Oh, yeah, that was all made up. Like, just speculative. It was all made. It was made up and they sold stock and that's why they're 11. Like an 11 or $12 billion company with 9 billion in cash. Like, and, and that. That's 11 or $12 billion company who's going to come up with 56 million. Well, you need a few more of those short squeeze Robin Hood. Yeah. Exits. Yeah, but that's not like they picked your stock because people are shorting it because they didn't like it. And people are going to short the stock and try to make it go down because it's like this isn't a good company. And then the buyers come in and they buy more than that and then the sellers have to buy it back and then it goes up higher and higher and higher and then the company sells the stock and makes a lot of money and then it goes back down. It's pretty, it was pretty awesome to watch that happen because I was on the floor watching that happen and I was like, wow, this is, this is crazy. But it worked for. It worked for them. I think they did. Twice. I think it happened twice. Yeah. Unbelievable. Gotta love the power of Reddit, whatever you want to call it. I don't know. I mean, clearly. And it's sort of the world we live in, too. Like, the speculative hype like that, we all want to, like, sign. Yeah. You know, but it created billions of dollars of. Out of thin air. Well, Brian wasn't, it wasn't data. It wasn't like sales, like, you know, the old things that mattered. Brian and I were talking about pre episode. We're like, no, publicity is bad publicity. They easily could have had this whole thing conjured up just so that, you know, they could get some publicity. Now they're in the sports card game, and, you know, they want to have a stake in it. So they knew ebay was going to reject it, but it was crazy enough that it would. You know, we're talking about it right now, and so is every other creator in this space. Yeah, I mean, I, I, I think it could be a, a bunch of different things, but in the end, it's, it's a genius move to let you know, let people know that they're in the same business as ebay. Yeah. What I was going to say is I'm curious to see all the tech advancements that have been happening over the last year. I'm curious how it might impact this year's national. And I won't be able to. I mean, I've never gone, so this would be my first year. And I want to have a baseline. But I'm curious as to if, when y' all are there, if you notice differences based on just the tech that's available now. I think what you'll feel is what is sort of both the wonderfulness and the problem of the industry, which is a lot of dealers and a lot of people on the floor that really want no part of it, even though it's going to be part of it, and the youth want it and are absorbing it, and the leaders of the future will. But it's a lot of cash and a lot of vintage cards and a lot of modern cards, but a lot of cash and just absolutely no data control or in a lot of pencil and paper notebooking like I've never seen since 1989. How about the guys? The guys will sit, they'll bring a chair. Like that's what they're carrying their cards in a chair. And they sit down on the chair and they go through these dollar boxes. Yeah. And then they have a spreadsheet. They have a legal pad. Legal pad. They are. Right. They write it down. I mean, that's their hobby. I mean, that's cool. You know, it's just, I, I, part of me just wants to Grab him and go. Do you know how easy we could make this for you? Yeah. No, because it's kind of like. It's kind of like anything. The journey is everything. And so that's the journey for them. And if you shorten it, it's kind of like taking out the best part of the movie, you know? And I get it. But I just like to move fast and I like to know, like, yeah, you moving fast, that's crazy. You'll be. I think what you'll see is. I think you'll be unimpressed with the technology at the National. Yeah. Okay. You know, but it's wonderful at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. I love it. It's so fun. But, like, it's fun for different reasons. It's fun because it's just so much going on. But like, those guys, I mean, I don't know, some of those old timers who have been there for 30 years probably make 95% of their money in those five days. Yeah. And that's it. And so they. They just want to wheel and deal. That makes sense. But we should. We should have this. We should have Bella go with, like 10 questions that she won't answer until the end. And then when she comes back, what are those questions? Like, what does tech look like? What did you see? Who did you meet? Stuff like that. Because you have new eyes, which is interesting. PSA reported that they had 3.1 million submissions this past month or in April. Mind blowing. I don't even know how you could possibly have enough graders or enough time in the day or hours in the week to get that many cards done and actually have the quality control that you need. They hired all those first graders. I mean, I mean, there's gotta be, you know, just the math on it in my head, like, I just. What the average grader does in a day. Like, the amount of people they have grading is like 100,000. Right. Or thousands. It's gotta be thousands, right? Thousand to do. I mean, to do that, 3 million, gotta be 10, 20, 30,000. Are they working seven days a week or you think they're five? I'll say. Dude, you kidding me? They got NAT pods working four days a week. It's corporate America. Yeah. They got a built in gym, pool. Yeah. Cafeteria. Exactly. They can just live there. They got AI grading 99 of it. They just put the PSA logo on it. Now. I was just saying, I mean, that job has to be like, way cooler than, like, way cooler when you get it than it is when you do it. And like, eventually you got to be like, what? I'm sitting in this dark room, like, what am I doing? Like that you have to go insane. Well, I mean, I think I'd lose my mind personally. And I mean, there's no consistency. They. They're not held to any standard because again, countless experiments, including Teapot, who mentioned it today that he sent all these same cards in multiple times and they came back graded different, Anywhere from a six to a nine and a half. Or them saying that the card was just messed with and that they couldn't grade it. It's kind of like the weatherman, you know, they get paid to be wrong. They get paid to be wrong. And no one challenges it and no one corrects it because, ah, it's just the way it goes. What a great business. I was a meteorology major for three years. So. Were you really? Actually, yeah. I could proxy Brian, sort of. I should have a weather thing behind me. You're way too smart. You're way too smart to be a weatherman. Oh, no, dude, those guys are way smarter than me. Like real meteorology, like, it's. You get a double degree in math and science. Why are they wrong so much? You go predict the weather. They're better with the temps. Like, I will give them that. Like, they're pretty good. Like a week out, 10 days out, which is. It is crazy impressive to begin with that you can predict the weather seven days out. Ah, it's all modeling now. I could build that in Claude in like five minutes. Yeah, click Claude. But how about like being a weatherman in like Arizona in the summer? You're just like 110. All right. See, wasn't that in like groundhog day or something? It's like, ah, it's going to be sunny again. Same thing, same thing over and over again about a repetitive job. Like, you got three possibilities. You got sunny, you got cloudy and rain. And somehow we make it into this secret fortress of meteorology. What is going to happen? I don't know. Is it going to tornado? I don't know. That's like the greatest moment ever for news, for everything else. Because you get this moment that brings all the attention. All the other articles get clicked because there's a tornado. They see all the other stuff. Look, that's how it works. It's fear monitoring. It's even better if people die. Like, it's even better. It. Yes, it's not. But it is. Like for them. It's like, what did they say? If it Bleeds. It reads or, you know, something like that. It's on. It's literally. I'm not making this up. And don't kill the messenger. You're not. You're not a bullshitter. No, that's what it is. Like, they get made and not funny. Not people dying, but it's. It's funny. The mechanism that sort of triggers this stuff. I don't know how we got on the weather. Yeah. Yeah. But let's. Let's rein it back in. Kind of like the speculative nature of Top Chrome Football. Yeah. Did I bring it back? So funny. Well, maybe not funny, but this. This guy. I'm calling bullshit. But keep. I want to hear it. Go ahead. Okay. This guy claimed to have lost a 2013 rookie, Aaron Judge, super fractor. One of one card. And super bummed about it, obviously. 101 went looking in his collection recently and somehow stumbled upon the card within his collection and is now selling it at an auction for $140,000. It's just like, you just make this up right? To me, like, the immediately when I heard of that is when people do, like, insurance fraud on art and, like, claim that it was. He's already claimed it four times on different insurance. Yeah. Like, I, Like. I don't know, it just seems a little odd. Or like we were talking about it earlier. Like the. The Mickey Mantle card that's in the baseball packs. Like, I'm like, somebody could have pulled that or something. They just haven't said anything about, like, and are just waiting or tops. Knows exactly where the card is and just hasn't even distributed it. They got an NFC chip or tracking chip in that. Let them fool you. That's how we're all being tracked by the government is. That's what the hobbies. Baseball cards. Yeah. They got chips in them, I think. I mean, I don't. What do you think? I'm gonna start with that rumor, Ryan, on that. I think it's. I'm gonna tell you what I think without telling you what I think. I lost my son today. I'm gonna go to news, tell him that he's actually home in the closet. And then tomorrow I'm gonna call and say, oh, I found him in the closet. You know, a crazy, crazy one. But I mean, I get it, but I like. But I'm just saying, like, I. Why I could easily. And people do fabricate stories to create a story. I mean, we wouldn't be talking about it right now if you hadn't. It sounds like it's I mean, maybe there. There has to be more detail to this because otherwise it sounds very easy to just fabricate. I would think there's some, like, I don't know, video collection or something that sort of documents all this story for way longer than, like, oh, I lost it. He probably just wanted people to again, use marketing to be like, hey, do you guys know that there's a 101 on the. You know, on auction this week? Exactly. Get more clicks, sell it more. Suddenly it's going to sell for once. Yeah. And it would have sold for 130. Oh, for sure. That was worth it. That's called attention engineering. I like it works. I love how you always bring it back to marketing. Yeah. I mean, just telling you, it's a real thing. I've written, like, I have a half a book written on it. Like, I do everything else also raising a brand, but that was gonna be number one. That's great. We can save the books for when you're done coding to save my mental. That Duggle. That hurt a little. I'm sorry. Oh, hey, guys. What's up? Welcome to the on it segment of the week here with Leonard Barry. He oversees YouTube content and all strategy it. On it. I just gave you. I just made you the strategy executive director, Leonard. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if my paycheck reflects the title, but we're gonna have to get. We're gonna get you a raise. But no, he's doing cool over there, and I'm just jealous he's going to be on the road with all the college athletes this summer. But what's cooking today, Leonard? Oh, nothing much. Just enjoying my upgrade to C suite title. Can you send that private jet down for me? Yeah, can. Can I get a trip to the collector station, please? No, I'm good, though. I mean, it's a good week. Softball regionals are starting. Always a fun time. Last week of baseball regular season just. It makes me sad that, like, almost brings a tear to my eye. Because you think about it, this is the end of the 2025, 2026 college sports season. We are into the last stretch of the regular season in baseball, and then it's just all post season, and then we gotta sit and wait through July and part August. I think we've mentioned this. Like, women's sports gaining popularity is this. I think you got two things at play. It feels like, number one, people are kind of over, like, standard. Like, people like sports. They want to watch more sports no matter what. You don't want to watch crappy television. Sports are hotter than ever. And then the Caitlin Clark effect, you know, I feel like she sort of escalated everything in female sports. I think she needs to get like royalty checks because I think, I don't think it's like artificial. I think she shined light on number one, some really talented, you know, female athletes that weren't maybe getting that visibility before. It's not like she shined light on, you know, they call it like lipstick on a pig. No, she put, she put a spotlight on what should have probably already had a spotlight which is really competitive, really fan based, especially in the college athletics and hey, on it products that are covering all of it at the highest level. But talk about that later. Do you think there is a little bit of that, you know, Caitlin Clark effect? Yeah, I think so. I mean for sure. Obviously Caitlin Clark drew a number of people to women's college basketball and the question was going to be does the viewership remain at the same level? And it's basically stayed the same, if not slightly grown too. So you know, players like Paige Beckers, players like Az Fudd, Sarah Strong, like there's just a long lineage of really good talent in women's college basketball and the WNBA or you know, women's professional basketball has been around for a while. So what I'm really loving to see recently is the cropping up of all of these newer professional leagues. You look at lov volleyball, you know, that is something that was literally just like AAU travel style tournaments for people who were going to get recruited to go play in college. They parlayed that into a full fledged league that has expanded. There's a team now in Lincoln, the Huskers. As you know, many people out there are probably aware, very good draw. They sold out the freaking football stadium. Playing a volleyball match outside, you couldn't even imagine watching a volleyball match from like the nosebleeds in a football season. You can't see anything. But people still paid to get in the door, you know, and the Athletes Unlimited softball league too. We just had a bunch of players get drafted into that last week. They're expanding as well. So like you said that the growth of like what Caitlin Cork brought eyes to and then what some of these other media conglomerates and just investors in general who are putting the money where their, you know, eyeballs are when they say, hey, I love to watch women's sports, like I'm going to back it financially. And you see a lot of people become, you know, new investors, start up new Teams, the barrier to entry is a little bit lower. You don't have to be a multi billionaire to, to buy a team. Maybe you can get by with a couple million. Uh, I think that there is, you know, in a world where everything is so flipping expensive, time is your most valuable resource. And I think that a lot of people are starting to kind of shift away from being out priced or price gouged, away from, you know, watching some of these sports in person and they're shifting their eyeballs and their money and their wallets to places that are easily accessible and have just about this, just about the same amount of entertainment value. That's a really interesting point and I think it's true. I think people like the entertainment factor of sport and again, whatever, shine the light on it. You have highly competitive things happening and no bigger stage that shows this than what's happening in the softball. We got 12 teams. You got the Oklahoma powerhouse, you got Nebraska. I don't know what it is about Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas. I mean like what is the trifecta there within the geography and you know, all on IT teams talk about what's happening with onit products and the softball tournament and everything going on. Yeah, that central time zone, it's killer. Yeah, we got 12 on IT teams hosting regionals. So that 16 regionals across the country happening, 12 of them are being hosted by on IT teams. We only missed out on a couple. We sent 14 teams in total to the tournament out of the 16 teams that we work with. So that's pretty good return. I haven't done the math but I think it's well over 90%. So lots of teams going on, lots of number one seeds. You mentioned Oklahoma, they're a one seed. Texas, SEC champions, last year's national champs looking to repeat. They're hosting in Austin. You got Nebraska, who hasn't been to Oklahoma City since 2013. They've never won a title. Two way star Jordy Fromm leading the way for them. They're a very intriguing bunch out there in Lincoln. You get a team like UCLA who has hit a bundle of home runs, including Megan Grant. She just got shortlisted as a potential player of the year. She broke Lauren Espinoza's single season home run record. She's hit 38 home runs in 55 games at the time of this recording. Lauren Espinosa hit 37 in 72 games back in 1995. So when you talk about like women's sports viewership going up, the talent has certainly increased as well. When you look at players Like Megan Grant, Jordy Fromm, Nijerie Kenneday out there at Texas Tech. So, I mean, it's just a never ending list. It feels like, Ryan, when it comes to the talent that we have on these softball rosters, I love it, man. Any final mentions as we wrap up here today, Leonard, as far as men's baseball, any updates or anything there we want to call out? Yeah, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Georgia Tech is going to be dropping on our website very shortly. Number three team in the country, only behind UCLA and North Carolina. They are loaded with talent. Drew Burris, Von Lackey, Jaren Arvin Chula. All those guys are potential first rounders in the MLB draft this summer. So I would definitely hop on the website on athlete.com take a look at Georgia Tech. West Virginia just had a huge series where they swept number seven, Kansas. They're back in the Big 12 title race. They're live on the website. Gavin Kelly is homered in five straight games. He's in the set. So lots of good baseball stuff coming up. I'm sure we'll talk more baseball next week when they get into their conference tournaments, but definitely would stop by and check out the website for any of your baseball needs. Love it, man. Of course, you could go to the website. We've got that link on all the show notes. Again, that is onitathlete.com use code collector nation at checkout to receive 15 off your order. Again, support these athletes, support the schools and get in and start collecting something new. Get on it. We appreciate you, Leonard. Always a pleasure, Ryan. Thanks so much for having me. All right, guys, we'll see you next time on the on IT College segment of the week. All right. Anything else? Oh, Brian, surely you know something. What? What are we doing this weekend? Brian, you're home. You're not on the road. You're not getting terrible news or, you know, bad people. You're not dealing with any of that. What are you doing? This last week was busy because my mom turned 80 and we had a party for her, the Mother's Day. And then this week it's not. It's really, I don't want to do anything. I was like, the road. I hate traveling. Do you hate traveling, Brian? Yeah. I quit my job and became a crazy entrepreneur and made it work purely out of not wanting anyone to control one minute of my time or me to be on the plane every week. So you're talking to the poster child of. Yeah, it's like three Places I like to be. The boat, this place in my house. There you go. 3. Or at a White Sox game with you. No, that's gonna happen. Or the next. I. I mean, like, maybe we gotta work that out. How do we work that out? What, I come up, like a few days. It's gonna be so crazy for the national. You're gonna be pulling your hair out on there. But, like, we'll be in Chicago. Can we slip away? Can we. Can we bail in the national one day and just go to a. A White Sox game? Or is that just card Sabbath? We can go. Hey, I mean, you could stay an extra day or two. Yeah, it's not that. I mean, it's not that great to go to the socks game, but it's not. That's not really the point, Brian. It's for me and you to sit there and have a hot dog, beer or two, and sing Kumbaya. Yeah, five. Exactly. Have a little bromance. We will. We'll. We'll film. Like. Let me tell you about my best friend. Did we just become best friends? We'll make it. Oh, anyway, all right. We appreciate everyone, Bella. Appreciate you, Brian. Love you. Thanks, guys. Hey, the CollectorNation.com L U D E X Ludx in the app store. Go check it out. Always advancing user interface improvements coming. Collection management, ebay management. Look, I've seen the collection management stuff. Let me just tell you. This is. This is where it goes. Next level. So collection management, knowing what you have, slicing, dicing, doing what you need to do, that's the. That's the future. That's Ludx L U D E X in the app store. I'm at Ryan Alford on Instagram. Drop me a dm. Just be nice. We love you. We'll see you next time on click your nation. Bye. Thanks for tuning in to the show. Be sure to follow us on your go to podcast platform and catch the full video episode over on YouTube. Visit us@collectornation.com and follow Ryan on Instagram at Ryan Alford. Now get out there and collect yours.