June Grading Numbers Were Shocking!! What Does It Mean?

In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout the land participating in the hobby. There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards. And while distance may separate them, here is where they come together to talk cards. Hey, buddy. You know, there are a lot of high school kids out there right now preparing for football season, and they are trying to gain weight. And I found the perfect way to gain weight. It's go on an Alaskan cruise. Mike, the best way to gain weight is to get older. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah. You get up until you're late, get it into your late 40s, and it's. I still find it very easy to lose weight. Just as easy as it was 25 years ago, but it's way easier to gain weight now. Oh, my God. Gosh. I. I got the package on the cruise where you have unlimited top shelf alcohol and there's always food. So I'm like, I'm in the mood for a pina colada. Guess what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get a pina colada. And, you know, that made me kind of hungry, so I'm gonna go get a piece of pizza and an enchilada. You know, I gotta go. Oh, dude, it's. It was beautiful. I felt like. I felt like for the first time in my life, I was being treated the way that I deserved. I treat you the way you deserve, Greg. Yes, you do. You do. And so does the. The hobby community and. All right, well, here's the thing. We've got a lot we could be talking about. And as always, there's a. There's always something. There's always something to talk about. And, you know, as people are recovering from their Fourth of July weekend, I hope it was safe. I hope everybody still has all of their fingers. What was the guy on the New York Giants who, like, blew off his hand? Yeah, he was really good. Oh, yeah, he was a wide receiver. No, he was a defensive player. Giants. Yeah. Player lost hand. The wide receiver, Plaxico Burris, shot himself. Okay. Okay. Yeah, it was a really good john. Jason Pierre Paul. That's right. Yes. I hope everybody still has all of their fingers and their toes and from the fourth of July. But there was something that came up at the end of last week, and I. I am not somebody who pays super close attention to hobby news, but you do a fantastic. Circling the basis. Isn't that what it's called? Yes, that's right. No clearing the bases on Sunday mornings. You have a great news show. Thank you. And, and Neo has a great new show as well. And Neo is. Neil's a really nice guy. You and I both feel fondly towards Neo. I believe not only Neo as a person, but also a content creator. I, I aspire to be as good at this as he is. He's just, I don't know, he's got this ease about him in. When I met him in person at Strongsville, I was like, yeah, he's exactly what I expected him to be. Super nice, friendly, helpful. Yeah, yeah, same. I was actually walking down the hallway and he was standing over to the side, ironically, as you'll see in a second, talking to the founder of J. And I was just walking and Neil was like, hey. And I was like, he's. He recognized me and stopped me. He's. He's a really good guy. And, and that's where I get a lot of my hobby news, other than from your show on Sunday mornings. And he was talking last week when the data came out. And I just pulled this up on the screen. If you are listening, not watching, of the gem rate data and there's a lot of information on the screen that is kind of mind boggling. But to me, there's one thing that really jumps out. What jumps out at you when we look at the June 2026 GEM rate data, which I believe I pulled the screenshot and the reason I brought up Neo is from a NEO tweet, if we still call them tweets. So there are a lot of things that jump out at me and I'm going to go through them, but I think I know where you're going with this. First of all, PSA is up to 2.5 million, which is an all time record. They're up significantly month over month and year over year. CGC up just as much month over month, year over year. They're at three quarters of a million, which I believe is a record for them. They're gonna hit a million in no time. Beckett has more than doubled where they were a year ago. Tag finally back up again, I guess a little bit because they were down. Well, I guess they're. They're still down from where they were a few months ago, I think. But the real killer here is sgc. While everybody else is way up. SGC is down from 50,000 last month to 39,000 this, this month they dropped 20%. They're down 75,5% from a year ago. And this is, it's, it's shocking, it's alarming, it's disconcerting. That this company, this once beloved, once highly respected company is being discarded. They're just, they've been tossed in the trash and they've been. They're in the compactor. The compactor is. This is a Greg ism here I've got going on here. I'm loving it. Compactor is coming down on them right now. And the Beckett has one foot on top of it and PSA has the other. And they're pushing SGC down, pulling SGC graders out. We're making assumptions, or I am anyway, saying, hey, I need an SGC grader for the week. I need an SGC grader for the week. And SGC just says, okay, okay, Yes. I mean, where do I start in my response? I mean, yes, I, I, I. You're making an assumption about, about using SGC graders. So the first thing I'll say is PSA went up 20. I didn't think that they could increase their capacity by 21% over the previous month. How did that happen? How did they suddenly grade 21% more? The only way I think that's possible from the previous month is if somehow they either were doing more hours with their employees or they had more employees. That's the only way they could go up in a single month. Is it not? Mike's squint? He's, he's what? Where are you at? Well, they opened, they opened a new location somewhere. Germany or something like that. And so that, that helps to some extent. But also pulling graders. We've been talking about this for month, pulling graders off of sgc. And they did say that they are now working pretty significant overtime. They're working weekends. And so you're right about that as well. But you, you say you didn't think they'd get to two and a half million. They're going to be at four million by the end of the year, I suspect. Don't be surprised if they're at 4 million by the end of the year. I don't disagree with that, but that's because I think they're investing in, like, floor space and equipment and a lot of the bottleneck areas. Yeah, but. So what I was getting at was one of the ways that they could increase 21, besides maybe grading on weekends, is if they're stealing some of their employees in the black and white shirt down the hall and putting on a red, white and blue shirt and bringing them over to psa. Again, we don't know that. I don't, I don't know. But it is absolutely shocking to Me, because, you know, three weeks ago we find out SGC is going to be at the national and I'm like, this is fantastic news. That collectors is actually spending some money to give them a booth and a presence. When I thought they were literally just chewing them away. And then they go down 19%. Now, I have graded with SGC for many years, and when I started, it was a five to ten day turnaround. Mike. A five to ten day turnaround. Yep. And they were doing this many cards in a month. Now they. I have cards that have been at SGC for over two months. Yes. I continue to send in submissions to all the people who think I'm a PSA homer. I have continued to send in submissions to sgc. I have a three card submission. I know, make fun of me for that. But I have a three card submission at SGC. It's been there for over two months when it used to be five to 10 days. They're grading less than last month. Now. They're not grading less because the submissions are down. They're not grading less because there's not anything to grade. They're grading less because there must be fewer people to grade. I guess because, you know, June has, you know, 30 days in the month. It's not like it was a, a February month where there were fewer potential work days. There's not a bunch of holidays in June, so it's not because of that. Here's my thought. If. If I owned a hot dog stand, Mike. Okay. If I owned a hot dog. Yes, I'm going there. If I owned a hot dog stand and I had one to two people in line most of the day and I was grading or. I'm sorry, I was, I was putting. I was selling 50 hot dogs in an hour and it was one to two people deep. And then you came by the following hour and I had 100 people in line for hot dogs, what would you do? If I told you I only. I only turned around 40 hot dogs that hour, so when there were one to two people in line, I was. I was selling 50 hot dogs, but now there's 100 people in line and I only sold 40, what would that tell you? To me. What would that tell you about me as a business person? If I was grading less when the line was longer than it had ever been, there was some sort of inefficiency that happened in your workflow or one of your people that was working for you got sent home early or was reassigned to your other food truck. My pretzel truck. Yes. Yes, that person. You. Your pretzels were wildly popular and they helped your brand more. And so you said, hey, need you to go make some pretzels, and you sent somebody over there. I think that you may have hit the nail on the head. That's the only way it's possible because we're down 75% year over year. We're down 20, 19% month over month, and the line has never been longer. So the only way that this is possible is if a machine broke or if you have fewer employee hours doing the tasks that are required to grade the cards, encapsulate them, and send them out. And it's especially annoying because PSA doesn't charge me until the job is done, but SGC charges me up front, so they've already gotten my money, which makes it especially annoying. Yeah, absolutely. Now, I do have another question for you, but I want to talk about our sponsor, Chris Sewell, because Chris has sponsored this episode. And if you have psa, Beckett, sgc, any of these slabs, Chris Sewell is, is in the market to buy them. And you should go to our website, Sports Card Clubhouse, or you can just go straight to his website, cidcards.com I think probably better just to go to our website. You can email Chris. He's buying collections, full collections, partial collections. Sewellsportscards gmail.com Chris is the man. We love him. We are huge fans. And if you're looking to sell, reach out to Chris. I will add on this little piece, one of the things that I've had a lot of people ask me because I've been doing my Q and A's for like three years is they say, I don't want my wife to get ripped off. If I die and she's left with my collection, I don't want her to go to the local card shop and have them offer her $200 for a bunch of cards that are worth 200,000. You don't want. You don't want somebody offering to your wife the amount that you've told her you've paid for them. That's a good point. Right, but so what that means is it means it's important that you leave contact information for somebody you trust. Chris Sewell is on my word document to my wife, if something happens to me, it says, call Chris Sewell. Here's his phone number. Here's his email address. And. And you had. We have Sewell Sports Cards LLC on the contact us information. You have a. A whole bunch of different ways to contact Chris and That is something that I would recommend to people out there is leave a plan, and leave a plan with someone you trust. Don't say the local card shop. Say someone like Chris who is going to treat your family members right and treat them with respect and dignity and offer a fair amount, which is something I strongly believe Chris does daily. Yeah. So, Greg, you mentioned SGC being at the show. Yeah. I know it would be shocking, but would you be surprised if you go to the SGC booth and it's actually been turned into a PSA booth or a Beckett booth? I would be surprised because on the interactive map right now on the. The website for the national, it. It says SGC in black and white. So I would be certainly be surprised. But I'll also say a lot of the times, a lot of these announcements about things that are going to happen come out right before or after the national. Like, remember that one year where the announcement came out in late February, and then, ironically, Peter Steinberg wasn't at the national that year, even though the year before he was hanging out and you could go up and talk to him and shake his hand and interview him and all that stuff, and he just happened to not show up the next year. Yeah. So this is kind of like, it is also the beginning of the fiscal year here. So it would shock me. It would shock me. Would it shock you if. If the SGC booth was a PSA booth? It would be shocking, but I wouldn't be surprised by it. I'd be like, that is amazing. But ultimately I would not be surprised by it. Do you. You understand what I'm saying? The difference between shock and surprise? Yes. Like, it would make perfect sense. It would also be, like, the gall of them to do this. Well, I will also say that the interactive map continues to change as there are updates happening. And so you can't look at the interactive map once and then think, oh, well, it's going to be the same thing. It does. Look. And maybe I'm just remembering wrong. I feel like when I first looked at it, the SGC booth was similar in size to the Beckett booth. No. I'm gonna look back at my video. Yeah. Because I felt. I felt like they were similar in size, and now all of a sudden, it's significantly smaller than the Beckett booth. Oh, oh, scroll to the right a little bit. Look at CGC gsa. Bigger than both of them. To the left. Yeah. Way bigger than both of them. Yeah. And they are the one company that, as of recording, we're recording this because of the holiday weekend on July 3rd. We do not yet have CGC pricing. A Beckett pricing has come out. PSA pricing has come out. $12,000 for a card. It'll be interesting to see what CGC JSA pricing is for their on site grading. Yeah. Let me ask you this. What do you think of the PSA grading on site grading prices? I would never do it. It's funny, for my. For my Sunday episode. By the time this airs, my Sunday episode will have already aired as well. But there's a comparison. Somebody did a comparison between I think 2016 and 2026 PSA pricing. And people were outraged by the pricing back then. And it's now 10x. Something like 10x what it was 10 years ago. The highest. The highest grading price for the national on site grading this year is 11 999. The lowest. I don't even remember because I just was like, I'll never do this. But it was like 400 maybe for one card. I think it was like 230 or something. 230, okay. Which I don't have any cards that I would. Great at that price. But Mike, the, the price of plastic has really gone up over the last few years. I mean, sure, I mean, can we blame them? But here's the thing, Greg. There will be a long line the entire week. No doubt. No doubt. Now another thing I just. Has just popped into my mind. Mike Baker. Because I know a lot of people are anti PSA and they're looking for alternatives. I'm. Where is, where's the Mike Baker booth? Because I've heard he's gonna be there. Let's look at. Is it. It's not under NBA Mike Baker. There he is. So 2420. Is that up? Oh, oh, here it is. Well, that's a car ladder. Yeah. So card ladder had. I liked card ladder spot last year. They were, they were right about in here. I interviewed a viewer at the car ladder booth last year. They were nice enough to give me some space to do that for sure. By the way, card ladder. If you're interested, SCC will get you a free month of card ladder using our promo code. But yeah, so Mike Baker is right here. The. The white on the yellow didn't make it stand out. That's why I, I didn't see it. But we'll be kind of in graders row. Here you have cgc. And then a little bit smaller. Beckett. A little bit smaller. Sgc. A little bit smaller. Mike Baker authenticated. I'm going to be really interested to see how busy Baker's booth is for actual on site grading. I think it'll be very busy. I don't know what they're charging, of course, but they've become big in the hobby. And, you know, I wouldn't buy a card with a Mike Baker sticker on it, but it's become very popular. Very. Wait a second, wait a second. If a card that you liked and was priced fairly, it was like the regular price. Let's just. Okay, so the card Normally comps at 500 and you go up to a booth and it's $520, and it happens to have a Mike Baker sticker. You wouldn't buy that card. That would never happen. This is a. That would never happen because. Well, I would never be granted three wishes by a genie. But I still answer the question, Mike, if. Would I buy it? Yes, of course. And then I'd probably turn around and sell it for a thousand dollars. So what you're saying is you would never pay the premium of what a card with a sticker would be. You're not saying you are anti cards that happen to have the sticker? I'm not anti. I mean, I'm not raging against them. I just don't have a need for them. I don't see the point of it for my collection. I wouldn't pay up for them. It doesn't make any sense for me. But they're very popular. Let's say, for example. Let's just, let's just do a hypothetical. Okay. Can we do. Can we do a. This will never happen, but it's a hypothetical. Sure. Can we do another one of these? And, and you're welcome to ask me any of these back, by the way, so feel free. Sure. Let's say that you decided to sell your collection. Maybe you're, you know, you have a child who's getting married, an adult child who's getting married, and you want to help with the wedding fund. Thank you for typifying adult child. Yeah, well, I don't know. And. And you decide to sell some cards, and you have 10 cards that you think could. Sure. The cards that get stickers. And you're gonna sell the cards and you're trying to maximize the money for the wedding. Would you. Would you, Mike Jungle X Hero, take them to the Mike Baker booth and. Absolutely. And pay the money to get the sticker on them. There's no question about it. If I have the time and I believe that, that they will get me more money for my collection. I absolutely would. I don't Think there's anything wrong with it. It's just not for me. But if I, if I could say, if I could turn my ten thousand dollar collection, I'm just making up a number into a seventeen thousand dollar collection, fifteen thousand dollar collection, it would be negligent of me to not do that. I, I don't, I don't disagree. But I think there are people that would disagree with you. They would say that you shouldn't be doing that. Sure. And those people are obviously right. What does that mean? They're obviously right? No, like what? The counter argument. Some people would say we shouldn't be doing that and you would say what? Where? Who says who? Where are these rules written? I haven't seen these. Okay, I, I don't see. And this is a whole nother topic, but I don't care what other people do. Me neither. That. Should I, should we care what other people are doing? Let's. Let me give you an example. Let me, let's do an example. Let's do a specific example again because again, feel, I don't want you to feel like I'm picking on you. You can ask me any of these things right back. Okay. I'm happy to answer almost anything you want to. Would you, would you do it? Yes or no? I think that if I were trying to maximize the value of my cards in present day and I was trying to walk away with the most money possible for my family's need, that I would, I would almost certainly. Unless somebody, unless I found a dealer that was willing to pay me for high. I appeal cards that aren't stickered. And they said, well, I'm going to give you a premium because all these cards are high eye appeal. I would, I would certainly get them stickered to maximize the dollars. Even though, like you, I don't feel like the stickering is something that I need, but it is something that I would feel. Well, wait a second. I can help my daughter have a $30,000 wedding instead of a $23,000 wedding. I think I'm going to. So. So, yeah. And that might not be a popular opinion. I mean, I'm sure there are going to be people that hear this, Mike, that are going to think that we are wrong for doing that. That we're robbing people in the hobby. Yeah, well, I think that that's part of it. But part of it also is, you know, Mike Baker has a questionable past. Right. Absolutely. And so, so participating and giving Mike Baker money. Yep. When Mike Baker has a questionable past. You didn't ask me, I don't. We'd have to go back. I don't think you asked me if I would use Mike Baker. I think you asked me if I would use an eye appeal sticker. But either way, he has a questionable past. We know this. I would not want to contribute to that. Yeah, but if my family needed the money, I mean, probably if I were really confident in it. I also think that I could sell cards with high eye appeal without a sticker. But if I were just a regular Joe. Yeah, probably the Mike Baker route is the best way to go if you're super confident, but you're going to pay a lot of money just for the opinion, even if you don't get the sticker. Because another option, now this is. See, now I'm looking through it through a slightly different lens than we were a moment ago. If you send cards to fanatics, and, And I could be wrong, but I, I've never done this. My understanding is if you send cards to fanatics to sell them, they. They automatically review them and sticker them the way they feel are appropriate. So maybe the way to do it is to send them to fanatics, to have fanatics potentially sticker them before they go up for auction on fanatics. I don't know. I don't know enough about it. You were going to give me an example. You. It's gone. I mean, this is like. I didn't write it down. Like, what was, what were we talking about? You asked me about the, the if I would do it, and you said, let me give you an example. And then you said, well, you can ask me any question. So I just said yes or no. And then you went on a five minute soliloquy about. I have a tendency, Mike, to do that. I. I don't remember what, what the example was. It's gone. I'm. I'm officially at the age where my brain, it's. I mean, it's slowly dying. Like. But. Yeah, but. So do you ever feel like, oh, oh, oh, my memory. Do you ever feel like you're older than you really are? Like, did you ever get worried about your memory? Every day. Yes. Every day. I'm like, I'm pretty sure that I have some sort of illness. I. You look like it. I'm actually, I'm actually. Mike, I'm certain of it, that there's something that's actually wrong. And then I just go, I'm gonna think about something else now because then I don't have to think about this. I will be Having meetings at work, and I've got notes for. To remind me of things that I need to talk about in meetings. And I'll look at my notes and they're like five notes of things I need to remember, and there's always one of them that I have no idea what the note meant, no recollection of it whatsoever. And I'll think, over the last few years, this has happened more and more regularly. And so I. I write better notes, more thorough notes for myself. And there's still every week I've got something that makes me go, oh, am I okay? I'm the guy who doesn't delete, like, text thread group things, because I can always scroll up and remember what was had. And this happened with you and I the other day is I sent you a text and I said, hey, did this happen? And you said, yes, we talked about it. And I said, we did. And you scrolled up and you screenshotted me, and I went, oh, yeah, I under. Rings a bell. It was gone. It was gone. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to. To go, what were we talking? No, I'm just kidding. So you remembered your example. I think I remembered an offshoot of my example, and it was that there are companies and there are industry people that I do try to avoid, and I tried to avoid largely based on some past things that have happened now. I also believe that people can change. I also believe that things could have happened in the past and. And the person will have, you know, changed who they are and their makeup and. And you can't. I. I don't want to hold anybody to their worst day of their life, like, because we've all had bad days. And I don't want to say, well, you are who you were on that one moment, on that one day. But there was. There was. If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best. We had. I think it was on one of our last episodes, I was showing you some Jeter cards that I had bought and some Jeter cards that I was watching and the prices that some cards had sold for. And one of the cards that came up, I said, man, this went for like, 25 more than it had ever sold for. And you. And I pulled up the. The listing and everything, you know, well, that's. That's a Probe Steam. That's a probestein listing. And I went, I didn't even notice. Like, I don't pay attention to that usually. Meaning. So then that same card, not the exact Same card. Same card, same grade, different serial number. So it was a different example of the card went up again right after that. It was like a, it was like a five day auction. And I go, oh, I'm gonna have another chance to get one. And I looked and it was Probe Steam. And I went, oh, they, they didn't, they didn't, the guy didn't buy the card. It relisted. Oh my gosh. So I looked at the serial numbers. It was a different card, just a different example. But as soon as that kind of thing gets planted, that seed gets planted. See, I want to trust everyone, but then when one incident happens, you start to go, well, who can I trust? Who is doing things on the up and up and who's not? And, and with all due respect, and, and I know you feel this way too, and we've talked about this at length privately. You know, I have three sponsors on my channel and all three of the sponsors on my channel, it, it is about the product and I believe in the product and I use the product and the people behind them. That's where I was going is the most important part is the people behind them, the people who run all three companies of the channels, that of the organizations that sponsor my individual midlife chann. I strongly believe in those individuals. And, and just like we mentioned a few minutes ago with, with, you know, Chris Sewell is. Trust is so important when you're dealing with any of these topics in this hobby. And it's so easy to lose trust and once it's gone, it's hard to get back. Absolutely, absolutely. You know, I think that if we were using, if we were recommending Mike Baker to people, I wouldn't feel good about that. That's not, that's not a company that I want to recommend to people. Same thing with Probestein. And I've been, I've never been offered sponsorship from either of those, but I have been offered sponsorship from companies that I would never use myself. People behind them that I don't trust, I don't have enough faith in. And I've said no every time. Even when they offer me a lot of money, I've said no. Because what else, what, what else do I have besides the trust in my name, in my recommendations, my channel? That's all I've got. Yeah, yeah, I agree. And, and there I even have a couple of examples. One with this channel and one with my, my own personal channel where potential sponsors approached me and I didn't know them and, and I, I, I said, I Don't know you. I can't, I can't put my name on the line behind you when I don't know your product or I don't know you personally. And that's a big piece of this. And, and with all due respect, that's the reason. And, and this could, we could open an hour long discussion. But that's the reason that people say, well, there are a lot of grading companies just use a different one. They say, why doesn't a new grading company just start up and take on these companies? It's because when you're talking about something like the evaluation of a card and whether the card is full sized and it's not altered, and it takes a long time to build up a reputation. The reason that, that Beckett was able to immediately come in and immediately be a, a serious company in the grading space from day one. And, and I remember I was a collector at the time. There was psa, there was sgc, there were a couple small ones. And then Beckett said, we're going to start grading. And, and they immediately were competing for the top spot. And they immediately took the top spot. And that's because of Dr. Beckett's trust and the name recognition that everybody had of them. And there have been a lot of companies that have come along, along the way and they've said, I we're grading and they might do a great job, but nobody knows you yet. You can't gain trust. And some people say, well, people trust PSA and they're doing this and this and this. Well, maybe so. But enough people, enough people believe them and trust them that they're able to keep that reputation alive and people trust it. I don't know that people trust PSA so much as they love that PSA can turn them a profit. I think that the trust matters less when you know you can make money from them. Do you think if a massive scandal came out like happened with Gai, when we're talking about Mike Baker and, and how Mike Baker's trust is, you know, give or take, some people trust him, some people don't. I don't really. I don't know. Quite frankly, I don't know. I have met him. He seemed like a nice enough person. I've never sent a card to him for grading. I've never sent an item to him for stickering. But, but I think that with psa, it's not necessarily what does an individual think, it's what does the herd think. And the herd is down with psa. And if the herd is down with psa, then PSA is viable. Yeah. I think if a big scandal came out, people would say, can I still make money from these slabs? And if the answer is yes, they will stay with PSA scandal, it just wouldn't. I don't think it would matter all that much, really. Yeah, that's the cynic in me. The skeptic. You might be right. I don't know. Again, whenever I'm talking about any of these things, I just like talking about it. I'm not suggesting that, I'm not suggesting that people would or wouldn't stick with them, but I think that if most people were still cool with psa, then PSA values would maintain and if more people were not trusting them than were, then the values would fluctuate. And I've, that's one of the reasons I've watched SGC values closely. When Peter left. What happens with SGC slabs when you know the, the company is shrinking. What's happened with the value of SGC slabs? And to be honest with you, so far the, the value of SGC slabs has held true, which is fantastic because it should be about the card, not the grading company. It really should. And that's, I'm sure, something. We've already gotten five comments saying it. Buy the, buy the card, not the grading company. But that's easier said than done. You have to trust your grading company is grading it fairly and authenticating the card. And when you're talking about sgc, you're most likely talking about vintage. And the most important part of using a third party grader with vintage is the authentication of the card. When you have open enrollment for your doctor or your hmo, you, I, I don't know what other people do. I don't just wait until they assign me a doctor that's available. I research them, I look them up, I do investigation. How are they rated? What do, what do other patients say about these doctors? And, and what is their background? What is their degree? Are they, you know, there because there's different types of MDs and, and I look at all that kind of stuff and then I approach the doctor that, to get that doctor to accept me if they're full or close to full or whatever, like, because the trust that I have with them is paramount for me with two things, my health and my sports cards. Yeah. Yes, Agreed. Well said. All right, well, anything else that we haven't talked about that we should have or is it time? I mean, it is national month. Maybe we'll talk about that here next week. Or the week after about our plans. Yeah, I definitely want people to know some places and times and opportunities to meet up and run into each other and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, we'll definitely talk about that coming up. Cool. All right. Have. Are there no more world problems to solve before I hit end? I'm sure as soon as you click end, something else will happen. But we've sold everything again, Craig, in the last 40 minutes, though, Mike, something might have happened over those 40 minutes. Yeah, that's a good point. We'll solve it next week. We'll put it on the list. We'll solve it next week. Perfect. All right.