The Pros and Cons of Sharing Your PC + Building Collector Identity + Protecting Your Targets

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Michael Jordan Sports cards is a lifestyle Sports cards and we live now Jeremy Lee in the building and every guest that you ever needed Sports cards after hours keep the hobby heated Updates, homie Talk like you never seen it Sports cards live and I could ever beat it Sports cards is a lifestyle Sports cards and we live now welcome to another episode of Sports Cards Live with your host, Jeremy Lee. Joe, do you want to jump on the screen? You're back there. You just want to. Come on. David, do you want to stick around still? If you want me to. Well, I mean, it's. Do you want. Do you want to take a break? You want to go. You need. You need a bathroom break, you need a meal break? Got to go. Say goodnight to the family in 20 minutes. How about that? Sure. Okay. Okay. Okay. But let me just say hi to Joe really quickly. I just want to wait. Okay, sure. He's my later too, but. Hi, Joe. I know. Hi, Joe. Hey. Hey. Good evening, everybody. Good to see you. I'll see you in 20 minutes, guys. Sounds okay. David. Jace, please meet Joe. Joe, please meet Jace. Hey, Jay. It's a pleasure. Nice to meet you. Joe. What's going on? Nice to meet you too. I'm. I got. I got Kawhi Leonard as a side PC, you know, kind of a minor one. He took down my warriors in 2019. I was actually there. Yes, sir. Oh, wow. He. You know, they clinched game six. They did the whole podium thing. The whole, you know, arena was singing the Canadian national anthem. And then I had this one moment where I kind of ran over to where the players go into the tunnel And Kawhi was all by himself and he just like, came. I was so close to him. He just looked so gratified and happy to have won that chip. And he was all by himself and I was just like, damn, there goes Kawhi Leonard. So anyway, that's really cool. Yeah. Well. Hey, Joe. Welcome. Welcome back. Back again. Good to see you, buddy. And so you've been listening to the episode so far. Okay, cool, cool. There's one more topic that we're going to get to that Jace brought. Just gonna do a couple more comments and we'll get into and. And whatever you want to kind of say hello with as well, Joe, but Jake here says Raw is the new graded. Chris C. Says this chat is missing a bab boozle, which is true, very true and quite noticeable. And Flint hall says, can you please discuss the PSA labels and how the Lighthouse label is effectively the only safe slab. As if you send in old slabs, they will likely change your grade. Yeah, that's just the change. All I can say that is the grading standards change. They could change again. They likely will change again. The standards change and the adherence to the standards change. And then even the consistency is, you know, just a wild card on top of all of those things. So. Yeah. Oh, Skeppy wants you to know, Jace, that Joe is a billionaire that lives on an island and joins us on occasion. Dex Flow, I had no idea. Joe, who is here every week, is a new collector. That's awesome. And. What? No, that's not Joe. Joe's not a new collector. Dexfo, you're. You're out of context on that. Joe's a lifelong collector, just like you and me, most likely. Okay, Joe, good to see you. Anything going on in your world you want to say before I introduce Jace's next topic? Well, I was, I was think. Thank you, Jeremy, and good evening to the illustrious sports card live chat and, uh, great to have you on Jace. I. I've been listening and, uh, I think we've all sort of chimed in. The one thing I would maybe also, um, contribute is that with whatever lane, like, let's just say Kawhi Leonard, because that's a market I know a little bit better than hockey. There are still lots of interesting rabbit holes in terms of which, which brand, which kind of era, you know, mem or shiny or, you know, combinations of both. And that's where I've, I guess, grown a little bit more just in my awareness is thinking a little bit more about not just doing, you know, the standard prism, silver you know, kind of, but. But looking for opportunities, you know, with some of the, some of the maybe lesser known sets sometimes or you know, seeing. Seeing what it would take to get into a. One of. One of a cool Kawhi card, maybe third or fourth year. And then, you know, if you're a Toronto fan, you get real siloed in terms of like getting them in Toronto jerseys, which there's only a year and, or a year and change worth of opportunities there. So like within that, just that lane in and of itself, I think there's a lot of richness to researching and keeping your eyes open and then trusting your instincts like we're giving you advice. But my advice to you would be like, once you do the research, trust your own instincts and use that combination of a card that you find attractive and, or compelling for some reason. And, and also, you know, your, your PC, your sort of North Star of like a Kawhi Leonard or a Connor McDavid or whatever it might be. What do you think, Jason? Makes sense to you? He's speaking my language for sure. Yeah, that's exactly. That's where I'm at right now is kind of trying to find the, the value plays, I guess, quote unquote, you know, because Prism is just. It's so expensive. I mean any, any Kawhi Leonard Prism Gold is like a four figure card even, you know, so for me, I can't really justify going that crazy on one card in particular. So I've definitely like, I recently picked up a, a Raptors year Kawhi. It's the 2018 Panini Spectra Gold Kawhi Leonard. Nice. So that was, that was a nice one. But you know, it just makes sense for me too because it's, it's the perfect price I want. It's the, the. It. It represents the exact memory of Kawhi that lives in my head always and. Yeah, just the perfect card for my collection. Awesome. Good stuff. Okay, Chris Hoage is in the back. We're gonna bring him up in a minute. In just a minute, Chris. So chill for a few more minutes back there. And I want Chris. So Jace, you're gonna stick around longer? Are you okay to stick around longer than planned? Because I, I want to bring up your. The other topic you had. And I know, I know for sure Hoag is gonna love the topic. I love it. Joe will enjoy it too. I might love it. I might actually love it. You might actually love it. But I know that I, I'm certain that HOJ will have some really good Things to share about it. And I'm glad that you're still on, Jay. So stick around. But before we do that, I just want to. This is a. On. Off topic. I just want to. I want to speak to the chat and to the listeners in the audience for a moment. And I just. I just deleted a comment from the chat. I just. You know, the chat on Sports Cards Live is a very, very important and integral part of this show. As you all know, six years. The chat is what makes this show, and I spend a lot of time and energy reviewing it. It distracts me from the conversations with the panelists in oftentimes. And that's okay. That's okay. But. But I ask for. I asked the chat members to respect the chat and to, you know, talk amongst yourself, have fun, have a party, but don't bring any drama from any other YouTube channels into the Sports Cards Live chat. That is not welcome or accepted here. And I'm just deleting. Com. I'll delete the comments, but I will ban people from talking in this chat. If you're gonna bring drama from elsewhere. If you have drama with somebody, take it to them directly. It is not welcome on this channel. Okay? I just want to. I just want to say that. That. So please respect that. 99 of people do. But every so often I see it, and it just. It's. It. It just. It. It's not what this environment with this. What this community is about. So please and thank you. Okay. With that out of the way, I want to. Quickly. Collector Charles has a comment here. He says, do you see BGS making a comeback where they've renovated their slabs and their labels? I kind of do, Charles. I kind of do. I think that. I think that they are in a unique position where they are not just a new grading company. They are a grading company built on the Beckett brand. And the Beckett brand is probably the best brand in the hobby with the most longevity, the most respected name. The. I mean, we grew up on Beckett. We didn't. Well, some people grew up on psa. We grew up on Tops. We grew up on OPIC yet. But when it comes to the grading companies, I think that Beckett does have a chance. That. That's just my comment on it. I'm sure some people might feel different, and that's okay. But I just want to address that. That question that Charles put into the chat. Okay, Chris, we're gonna bring you on. Chris, please, please say hi. And Jace, please meet Jace. Jace, please meet the legendary Chris Hoage. Great to meet You, Jace. You as well, sir. Nice to meet you. So the topic that Jace brought up with me that he wants to talk about, and this is. So here's how me and Jace even started talking. I know how he ended up on the show a few weeks ago. Pro. I know Jace five or six episodes ago of Sports Cards Live. We had a topic in the. In the title that we didn't get to. And Jace reached out to me and he said. He says to me, hey, do you think you're gonna visit that topic again in the future? Because I was really interested in it and you guys didn't get to it. I said, yeah, maybe we will. And I said, well, hey, maybe you come on and we talk about if you're so interested. And that's how this whole thing came up. We met at the Expo. Friend of the channel, friend of mine, friend of Chris's, maybe even Joe's. Max Putnam from Hoops Collectors was at the Sport Card Expo, and Jace was. Jace was a listener of his. I. I had the pleasure of introducing them to each other. And so, Jason, I have a history, and. And it's an honor to be able to introduce Jace to Max, introduce Jace to Joe and to David and to Chris and to Josh when we bring him on. So all that said, that's why this. This next topic is what brought Jace onto the show in the first place. And the topic was all about the pros and cons of sharing your want list or your targets publicly on social media. Chris, do you remember this topic? I. I feel like you. You may or may not. I don't. But I'm sure you're familiar with the topic. But before you even jump in, Chris, I want to. I want to let Jace present it in his own words and. Or if I nailed it, Jace, that's great, too. But let me ask you this, actually, before we get started. What is it about the topic that interested you? Why did you want to talk about it? What are you running into? And then we'll get into it. And we're gonna bring Josh on now, too. We're gonna go five way. Josh, here you come. Welcome, Josh Adams. What's up, buddy? Hey, guys. How are you? Good. Say hi to Jace. He's. Nice to meet you, Josh. All right, Jason, back. Back to you. Let it. Put the question in your own words, please. And then we'll. We'll start talking about it. Sure. Yeah. Well, you pretty much nailed it, but essentially the feeling is like asking for help. But also, there's competition out there. Basically, you Know what I mean? So it's like a lot of the people that I follow on Instagram are people who are looking for the same stuff that I'm looking for. So I really appreciate their help or their knowledge about the topics or the cards that I like. But at the same time, I don't necessarily want to put a target on the cards that I'm after, especially if people don't even know they're up for grabs. Maybe because that's another thing, too. Maybe, you know, they slip through the cracks a lot of the time. But if I'm the one to post it on my social media, hey, anyone. Anyone got one of these? All of a sudden, I could be the one losing the auction. So it's basically, yeah, competition versus finding. Finding help in the hobby. You know, Jase, I think it's a worthy question. I think a lot of people probably think the same thing, have the same concerns. I was thinking that just earlier today, there's a certain car, a type of card, it's an insert set from a year where I'm like, I think I want to chase a bunch of those. And I thought about putting a post on Instagram being like, hey, does anyone have. If you have any of these, let me know. I'm looking for cards from this set. Hit me up. I didn't put it out there because I thought, well, you never know. Some people might just go find them and hold. Hold them hostage on me and try and get more money out of me than I'd otherwise have to pay. That, I think, is the downside. But we see, we see so many people doing this and saying, hey, looking for this. And maybe it's because the cards are so hard to find and they're willing to pay whatever it takes. They're willing for somebody to hold it hostage. They just want to find the card. But when you have a limited budget, you can't necessarily do that or you don't want to necessarily do that. So maybe you don't do that. And I think that's. That's the question, right? Is like, what is the. What is the strategy here? And so I thought, Chris, I thought, ho you. Because, I mean, listen, you're very, You're. You're. You're like a sharpshooter. You know, you're very specific in what you're adding, but you also, People know what you're collecting. So I want to get you to first weigh in on this tension that we have as collectors in the world in. In this world, in time of social media, where people are out there to help us, but some people are out there to hurt us as well. How do you navigate that, Chris? And what advice do you give to Jason? Other people. Yeah. It's a great topic, Jace. Really enjoy Jace's appearance tonight. It reminds me, for reasons I can't quite express of what hobby content was like five or six years ago. I felt like it had the, it had a youthful vigor and an exploratory dimension that Jace has, which is making me really nostalgic for that five, six, seven years ago era. So I love that. And I think how I would approach this question, I think this question is definitely going to be different. It's going to. The answer is going to tilt in different ways depending upon who's answering it. So I think that if I were Jace, I'd make a pros and a cons list and I would say, what are the pros of publishing my want list and what are the cons? And I think the cons are obvious. And I, and I won't, you know, necessarily like, like waste your time or anybody's time coming up with them. But I, but I wanted to point out some of the pros because I think the pros are less obvious. Agreed. And so some of the pros are this. You have, if you take a longer term view, it can help you build a network and it can help you build a network in a couple different ways. One, you develop an identity. You know, people see that you're looking for something, they say, okay, Jace is the guy who's looking for Kawhi Leonard select Golds. Now they know that. Now they know that they have a potential person that they could sell them to. Now sometimes that works out to the positive, sometimes to the negative because certain people know I collect certain things and I've had people tell me it shows like I'm the exit plan. People are comfortable to buy a certain card because they know that they can dump it on me. So that can create weird second and third order effects. But the positive is that it can help cards find you because you develop an identity as somebody who's trying to acquire those cards. And, and then that just has network effects. That helps you meet people, that helps people identify you, that helps people, you know, get to know you. And like, look, when you put yourself out there, it, it creates all types of things. Some people are going to make fun of you, some people are going to mock you. Some people are. Many people are going to earnestly try to help you. Some people are going to try to take advantage of you. But I think over the long haul, the more you can develop an identity as a person who's looking for X, Y and Z, the more you can magnetize those cards, the more you can actually recruit them and bring them to you, I think. Overall. What do you think, Jace? I mean, it's. He makes a good point, and there's some good points in the chat, too. But what's your initial response? And then let's hear from Joe and Josh on the topic as well. But let's go to you first, Jason. Yeah, I definitely agree. That's one thing I've, I guess, somewhat struggled to do is, like, put my identity as a collector out there. And as I was saying earlier, like, I'm all over the place, or I have been a little bit all over the place. So if you went to my Instagram and looked at all the cards, you might not really know exactly what I'm looking for. Even though I do post my PC on there, there's still so many things that you really couldn't say exactly what guy I am. So I definitely. I agree that I want to make it more known just so that people know, and I'll probably help myself out a little bit by doing that. Jace, let me jump in on that for a second, okay? Because here's the thing. We are acutely aware of what we collect. I know what I collect very well. You know what you collect very well. Jeremy, Joe, Josh. But other people think about us for just the slimmest of seconds, if at all we have. If we want to actually build an identity and brand ourselves, we have to shove it in people's faces, and then maybe. Maybe they'll remember it for an instant or two. And it's. It's awkward. You know, it's awkward because some people are going to hate that, and some people are going to get it and. And you know it. But. But you. You really have to be a billboard, in my opinion. I think it's. It can seem really obvious to me. This is the stuff I collect. It's right there on my page. But most of the time, like, you'd be amazed. You'd be amazed at how many people listen to, like, a podcast that I do and. And completely, like, they'll say something about a card that I didn't bring up at all, you know, and it's like, well, okay, but anyway, that's the. The point that I wanted to jump in on. Jay's right. There is, like, boldness. Fortune favors the bold in this scenario. For sure. And the law of attraction too. You know, you got to put it out there to get it back to you as well. I don't know when this happened, but I hit that point where I just don't want to think about my clothes anymore. Like, give me something easy, something comfortable. 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Refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use. Head to quince.com sportscards for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. It's now available in Canada too. That's Q U I n c e.com sportscards for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quint.com sportscards yeah, exactly. Well said. Yeah, well said Chris. I like you know, you said you got to shove it down their face. The other thing I would say to Jace too when it comes to like kawaii for example, is you don't necessarily have to say that I'm looking for the Prism gold. You could say I'm looking for rare Kawaii cards. You could be more general and see if anyone brings them to you. Make sure you're sharing those cards not just to your main page but to your story as well to get the word out there you're here on this podcast. Maybe that will help reach somebody. You just never know. So that's kind of what I thought of that I wanted to share. But Joe, what about you? Any thoughts from you on this? How do you kind of broadcast what you're looking for? Are you more. I know the answer to this because I talked to Joe a lot. But what do you think of the conversation Joe, what do you want to add to this? All, all great points that have already been made. I, I think, you know, Jay Lee and, and, and, and only a couple other people that I, I actually do have something that I am keeping under wraps. But that's, that's pretty much brand new for me. Like I've more often than not it's about a card that's at auction or, or competitive urges in the space around certain things that I think, you know, I mean I'm, I'm, I'm a competitive person but you know, I don't have that much money. But within that, you know, like there's a, a fanatics. Sunday night, Jackie 53. Jackie, that is a 4.5. That has, or, excuse me, that is a 4. It has a sticker. It has, it has two stickers actually. An old PWCC one and also an MBA. And it's got my 4.5. That's got a sticker to 30 beat. And this is, this is frustrating me, you know, and it's almost like I'm looking at that 4.5 and thinking, could I move out of my 4 to get to that 4.5 backwards? Sorry, could I get out of my 4.5 to get into what I perceive as a better 4? So I guess that's just a long winded way of saying it. It really depends on the situation. I think there are going to be some moments where you want to keep your cards a little close to your chest, especially in negotiations. But like Hoage said, you know, it's also really, I think bringing, bringing some attention to what your collector lane is can yield returns down the road with know, people knowing that they might, you know, you might be a good trade partner. Well, well said, Joe. I think that, by the way, David Chase, you're on the screen. If you didn't know that yet, you're back on with us. We're going six way now, everybody. Yeah. Let's hear from Josh. Do you have any thoughts on this? I mean you've, I, I feel like I know Josh's hobby, identity. I, I have a feel for what he collects. He's on here talking about it. What about you, Josh? Do you like to broadcast your, your targets? Yeah, I mean as a fellow collector who's all over the place, I get it. Like, I like a lot of different things, so tell people what I want and you never know what someone will hit you up with. So it's always good letting people know what you're looking for just so you can find It. I doubt anything I'm looking for is going to draw that much competition anyway, so it's fine with me. And no one really knows who I am anyway, so it doesn't really make a difference. So it all works out. J. How about you, David? You've been listening? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I just think that Jace has just a great head on his shoulders. And I just think that whatever you decide to do, I think that I just feel like the things that we do now are not always what we do in the future. And the things that I did 10 years ago are not the things that I collected then also. So, you know, this is just a fun journey and sometimes changing throughout the years is part of the fun. So, you know, I know that you're. You have this thing under control. Jason. I love it. Good. Go ahead, Joe, please. Well, and I. And I think it, for me at least the evolution has taken the route of more and more around rarity and scarcity. So as I've moved into areas or targets that are more scarce, I think there is some degree of, you know, being, being scrupulous in, in how you're acknowledging your interest and that's because you could, you could be after a card. You know, you mentioned the spectra. Maybe you want the black version of, of that, you know, kawaii and a Raptors uniform. That would look really nice, right? I think they have a nebula inspector and like so at that point, you know, Hoja's advice might actually be apropos because I don't think that's a card that like everyone in the world wants. So maybe it would draw it out. Maybe that would be a good example of, of someone knowing, wow, he's looking for that card and you could maybe access it. But there are other cards and a little bit more in. In other people's lanes than my own. But where you. You definitely want to keep a low profile because there are so many into the Kobe market as Jay Lee has been reminding us, you know, how much adulation, adoration even his own son has for, for Kobe. Yeah. I don't know if I've talked about on the show, but I might have said on a different show. We were shooting hoops in the gym the other day, me and my 7 year old. I've never talked about Kobe Bryant in or around him. He goes to shoot the, to shoot the, the. The ball, yells Kobe. Yells Kobe. And shoots the ball. I was my, I was proud. I loved it, you know, but I was like, how do you even know that he couldn't answer how he knew it. He's seven. It blew my mind. I thought it was hilarious. Jace, any sort of final comments on the topic from you? There's a bunch in the chat I want to get to. So we'll hear your final thoughts on this and then we'll go to comments from the chat and then we'll. We'll move along. Sure. Yeah. So one thing I didn't mention earlier is that I did have a positive experience with this already. Like, I'm talking about my fears of creating competition for myself, but I actually, when I was looking for that Spectra gold, it was up at auction. I ended up reaching out to a fellow collector. His name is John ZSPC on Instagram. He's a great guy, but he's. He's really down the. The championship Raptors lane. And so I know that he knows his stuff. And that was my first championship Kawhi card. So I just. I wanted to get someone else's opinion. I wanted to see kind of where my rank, you know, as far as, like, compared to the selects or the prisms and whatnot. And yeah, he gave me great advice and he gave me the exact reassurance that I needed to go for the card, I guess you could say. And like you said, Chris, like, I. I built a friendship now and he knows that I'm into the same cards as him. Maybe, maybe one day he lets. He lets go of something and he knows I'm interested. You know what I mean? Or either way, whether that happens or not, it's just good to build connections with people who are interested in the same things that you are. And so you can just have more conversations and just. Yeah, more opportunities as well. Right on. Well, good. So I think that was a good discussion. I think it's. It's one we've never really had on here before. We were going to have it several weeks ago, but we didn't. So I'm going to some comments and we'll go from there. Flint hall here said that Chris Hoge is a goddamn genius. He is the Albert Einstein of sports cards. He is the gold standard of this hobby. And. And he is now blushing. But I kind of do agree. What's up? Let's go. Oh, Chris wants to respond. I'm just glad I remember to sign into my burner account before I sent that to the chat. It would have been embarrassing if I had sent that from my name. Let's go, Jordan. Good evening. Welcome. Mike Good says, I think more collectors would rather see SGC grow and get bigger rather than Beckett. I Mike, I disagree and I might be wrong but I I think that the I think in the world of vintage yes more vintage collectors would maybe rather see SGC grow but I think modern collectors would would lean Beckett personally but just my perspective Alex Hiddell says, I like having at least the illusion of four major grading companies to choose from. Fair Luke Browning says, I have a card I've been chasing for five years and I have no intention of making that public. As Jay said, Target is where I want to be. The loan hunter. Very fair. Chris says. Did something in these streams change because I never had ads before but I got them now. Nope. Sports cards Live does get ads but I set them to the minimum. I swear I set them to the minimum so but I do I do highly recommend YouTube Premium Joe will admit Joe will will will agree with that. Hey it's life changing isn't it Joe Hallelujah for for premium. No more ads. It's beautiful. I've been to yeah I've been doing for years. It's the best. Chris it's worth every cent of those 15 bucks a month. Skeppy says it depends on how available the cards are. If they are somewhat available all the time you can keep that search to yourself. If the cards are very rare, you may not ever find them unless you ask or post about them. Very fair. Smart comment. E. Young says, I think constant sharing, posting of the player or set on socials could definitely help with being identified. Foul ball It's a great question. Why do we need to have a hobby identity? It's a great question and my answer is you don't need to have one, but you do. Foul ball. You have a hobby identity. Whether you want to admit it or think you do or don't, you do. And it's maybe from your activity in the chats on YouTube you be you you you have a I know your hobby identity. I think a lot of other people do too and that but you don't need to have it. But I think we sometimes back into them and the other thing is that the hobby is a community and when you're a member of a community you have an identity. You stand out as yourself. Your unique person, your unique approach. People are interested in it. So you have one. Whether you like it or not is the first thing if you are out there in any social media environment like a YouTube chat room. So you have one whether you like it or not. But it's the way the world works man. Like we have, you have an I, you go to school, you have an identity, you plan a sports team, you go to work every day, you have your identity. You meet with your clients, you have your identity. So you do. You need to have one. Probably not. Hermits have the identity of being a hermit, but nobody knows about them. And, and to the panel, any comments on any of these, please note them, write them down like Chris does, and save them for a little bit later when we, when we open that up. Skeppy here said it also depends on the popularity of the player. If you are collecting something that the hobby as a whole doesn't like, you can pretty much do whatever you want and not compromise anything. Probably true. And Luke Browning says, if you know where the card is and it is a very rare card, one of one or close, why bring greater attention to it? I think that's a really fair comment. I will say though, that I think the whole point to this is when you don't know where it is. Luke, if you don't know where it is and you're looking for the cards, then maybe that's why we're talking about broadcasting your targets. But Luke makes a very good point. In the event that you do know where it is, maybe don't bring attention to it. Reach out directly to the person that has it. So all good comments there. I want to just go to the, the panel now, all six, all other five of you on the screen with me, and just put up a finger or a hand if any of you want to respond to any of those comments that we just kind of blew through there. Chris's finger is up please. Chris, the finger is raised. Okay. Hobby identity. I thought that was a great comment from Foul Ball and I just would like to use it as a reminder to sort of underscore that you don't need to cultivate a hobby identity. In fact, this historically has been a hobby of public facing people as well as many, many more people who collect in the privacy and the security of their own collecting fortress. And they don't need to put themselves out there at all. They don't need to have a social media page. They don't need to go to shows they can. But there's certainly no requirement, there is no necessity whatsoever, in my opinion, to cultivating or trying to refine or polish or develop a hobby identity. I just kind of hearing myself like, sort of give the advice to say like, hey, it can help with your hobby identity. It kind of sounds like marketing slop. It sounds like a slogan. I Get why that would be a turn off. And so I think like the other side of the coin that foul, foul ball points out, which is great, is that people have collected privately forever. And I, Jeremy, I'm sure you would agree the vast majority of this hobby is not showing their stuff on social media and going to the turning up at card shows. They are collecting privately and on their own time. Yeah, I mean, as the hobby is growing this year and I'm at card shows, more and more people that I'm meeting at my booth and walking around are like, this is my first card show. I've been collecting for 15 years. I've, I, I've never been to a show. I'm not on social media. So the hobby is a lot bigger than what we see on Instagram or anywhere else. Joe, I, I want to, I want to respond to Foul Ball's, you know, the identity question. I guess where my brain goes is we don't need to, but perhaps just, you know, as the great existentialist philosopher John Paul Sartre said, know we are sort of Sartre. Of course, Sartre. The French people in the audience can help me out with that. Wagner were the results of our actions. Right. Our choices, the choices that we make do essentially align with who we are and our, what our, our life amounts to. And so in from that lens, you don't need an identity, but an identity is formed by our actions, by our choices. And in, in the case of, you know, collecting, you know, our acquisitions. Say something. Our acquisitions and you know, our release of certain assets say something about our identity, whether we like it or not. Well said, Joe. Yeah. Anyone else have any thoughts on that? Josh, David, Jace? Anyone have anything quick to jump in with that? If not, no hands go up, then I'm gonna, I'm gonna move on that. That's all good. Uh, I'm gonna do a few more comments here now. Charles says networking is paramount in our hobby. I think it is. Listen, for me, it is. I love it. But I'm also an extroverted person who likes talking to people and hearing their approaches and all that. So I get off on, on learning people's hobby. Heck, I created a platform just so people can learn more about putting words behind their, their, their identity, if you will, or at least their core motivations within the hobby. Midlife cards. Greg says, what if your hobby identity is that as a, is that of a pirate? And then in parentheses he says, asking for a really good looking, extremely handsome and well put together friend. And I, I don't know if he's talking about me or not, but I'm considering adding a pirate to my collection right now. And, and so although I've recently been, I've recently been told that I'm far from the, from the number one bald guy on the hobby on the Sports Card Clubhouse network, so Greg is likely not talking about me right there. Chris C. Says social media can help you find great cards, and I've added several more recently due to it. Absolutely. The other Chris says I'm stubborn. I don't pay for things that are free. Talking about YouTube. Prem. Chris. Enjoy the ads. That's all. I enjoy the ads. Chris C. Says the vast majority of this hobby are private individuals, and that will never change. And I think that is probably true in many ways. Never is a long word because, you know, if we have chips in our brains 50 or 100 years from now, you may not be able to escape it, but hopefully it doesn't come down to that. So. Okay, just a real quick point. Yeah, go ahead, Joe. Just for those people that I, I, I was averse to paying anything for YouTube for many, many, many years, and I just discovered that there's a YouTube Premium Lite, which is significantly cheaper than the full YouTube Premium. So I think it's 7.99 for me. It's totally worth it to not, you know, because I, I, for better, for worse, I, look, I listen to hobby content at all hours of the night. Yeah, no good. Listen, I, I know I've loved YouTube Premium since I got it, and, you know, I'm not sponsored by YouTube, so I, I'm just telling you what, what I, what I think skeptics is. Wow, Jeremy collecting pirates. You mean like Stargill or Clemente? No, I mean actually literally being inspired by my friend Greg who collects pirate cards and not even being inspired, but being exposed to it and talking to Joe, who went through the same thing. You know, you don't know about it until you know about it and then you see it and then you talk about, like, maybe I want to add a pirate card to. I have, I, I have a new grail I've identified, and I'm after a new grail. I'm not telling anybody until I get it. Captain Morgan. It's not, you're not gonna guess it. Okay? I'm looking at the Captain Morgan of, of the illustrious N192. I'm not, I'm, I'm completely oblivious to what the actual pirate set is, but it's. Greg would know. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure he would. I do want a pirate card, but I just want one just as a representative. Maybe you should announce it and it'll attract itself to you. Jay Lee like maybe we should all know about it and then we'll, we'll make sure that card gets to you or not. They're not that hard to find. I think, I think, I think I'll be okay. I think, I think I'll find it. But, but there's another comment here. Situational Adventure says that YouTube premium skill skips the ads but also keeps playing in the background. This is one I forgot about. You can be on your phone watching YouTube without having premium. As soon as you go to a different app, YouTube closes. You can't keep watching. Once you get premium, it keeps it on top. You can go to any other app on your phone and YouTube still, that video still plays. That to me is amazing. That was amazing as well. Okay, Luke Browning here said example whether he has efforted his hobby identity. Chris Hoge is more known than Chris McGill. Many people may not even known know what HoJ refers to, but that is his identity. Ain't that the truth, Luke? People just know him as, they don't even know him as Chris Hoge. A lot of people just know him as Hoge. You might not. And then I've had people write to me H o G E. They're like, next time I have Hoge on the show, H o G E. I'm like, oh, that's. I am. I feel so special that I came up that, that I was part of the original hoj. Not part of it, but was like that was my original favorite pot. So here's no, HOJ stands for House of Jordans, which was the name of Chris and Christina and your cousin when you started your first content back in 2017 or whatever it was. That's what HoJ is. So go ahead, Joe. Well, I was just gonna say that would be a really good trivia question is what was the cousin's name? Or it is the cousin's name. I'm sure he's still alive. I'm sure, hopefully. God, God, God bless. But he was good and I know he, he shifted lanes and went into some other stuff, but yeah, those were the days. I remember being in the chat, I remember Christina's corner, the, the artistic reckoning that she used to do with each episode. Like a 10 or 15 minute aesthetics review of a particular issue. And I learned so much from those. I didn't always apply the lessons that they were just feeling down But I, but I was, I was attracted to them and I, I believed in them. It's just they, they were very disciplined in their. Are they still out there? Hoage. 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