The Psychology of Consolidation + Trading Up, Tough Decisions + Market Predictions

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What's going on dude? Good to see yu-gi-oh Lee hello to the illustrious chat and Yu-Gi-Oh looking forward to a great show. I'm looking forward to seeing you in person. Joseph Peroseph this weekend. Coming up at the National, I'M excited, buddy. I don't know when's the last time I saw you in person. No, you weren't at the west coast card show, were you? Yes, I was. Yes, I was. It was. I wasn't the one. I was there. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh What was that? Was that February? February. February. Okay. Not so long ago I saw you in February. And we're gonna see you again next week in the National. Cannot wait for that. As as always. I mean, what a great. What. What an exciting time it's going to be. Can't wait. And it's gonna be your first time there. So how you feeling this week as we lead up into it? Almost a little surreal to think I'll be attending my first National. I'm already packing. I'm doing the little card organization stuff and. Yu-Gi-Oh but try not to, you know, get over my skis. Just one, one step at a time. I'll get out there. I'll leave My House Zebra early Wednesday morning and hopefully hit the show Fleer by 2:00pm Chicago time. So I will and I will see you there. Guys, we're gonna. We're gonna bring on Leighton in just a minute. Before we do, because we're getting started right out of the gate here. I just want to run through and say hello to everybody. Bill Betts. We got Joseph's Sports Cards. Looking forward to having you here. We got Outlaws, Jacob Dahl on Card Sports Saturday night. Let's go. What's up, Stooks? National Time Stuks. You know, you're not allowed to say natty in this chat. You know, Natty's for the cool kids. We aren't the cool kids here. Good evening, Laura. E105 5 cent wax. Alex Bridgeforth is here. Joseph. What's up? Brian? Greetings to you. Orlando is here. Mike Double V Called Shot Cards, Pick Six, Confluence, Larry Gitlin. Everyone's going to National. What's up? Rob Star. The professor is here. E Young Southern Collector. Tony, what's going on? Gord M. Welcome. We got Confluences. Tony, Southern Collector. He's here too. Yes, he is. Bruce the card collector. What's going on? Mookie Chilson. Hello, friend. Ken Wood. What's happening? It's good to be back. Joe P For Hobby. Prez Kermudgen is here. David G. Happy Pre National. E. Young Mookie. Only guys appeal. We got Jake. We got Stoops. We. Oh, everyone's there. They're. They're coming in, Coming in strong. What's up? David Cooey from Muskegon. Michigan for the game. Good evening. Christopher is here. Definitely. Always high. I appeal with the live. Attaboy. What's up, Bob Boozle? I can't wait to see what you come up with after this show. Laura, good evening. Mookie, Chilson still here? Everyone's here, Tony. Yu-Gi-Oh Okay. They're all to see that. I can't. I don't know, ahead of time. Are they talking to each other? They talking to us. So we. Can. We go through it. We got Michael Ham. What's up, Mike? I can't wait to see you, Mr. Ham, as always. Let's go. Jordan is with us. Ron Fig is here. Steve from Fresh Prince is here. Dino Locobo is here. Kinger and Jayhawker. And we're gonna bring on Leighton. Leighton, you ready to go, buddy? We're get. We're. We're getting started early on. And quickly, guys, welcome. Leighton, Sheldon, Leighton, Joe, say hi. Hey, Joe. Excited to see you next week. Yu-Gi-Oh I'm looking forward to it, Leighton. Hoping, hoping maybe we'll even do some deals. Who knows? Yu-Gi-Oh At the very least, we'll break some bread, you know? You know what, guys? I got. We got to start off by giving, like, a ton of flowers here to Layton. So a couple weeks ago, we're doing this show, and Leighton Layton's on with us, Joe. And, you know, we're talking about a couple of the big cards coming for auction. Of course, there's the. The Wagner on Love of the Game, and. And there's the Jackie Robinson. The autograph, Jackie. The PSA one with the beautiful autograph. And we were talking about, like, what is this? What are these going to sell for? Right? What are they going to sell for? I said to Leighton, I said, leighton, what do you think that Jackie's going to sell for? And Leighton. Leighton actually said. Leighton. Leighton made a guess. Leighton said 1.85 million. I think Leighton said that, if I remember. Leighton, I think you said something like. Well, after listening to what everybody's saying here, I'm going to say 1.85 million. Well, guys, the card sold just here on Thursday night. Not even 48. Yu-Gi-Oh not even 48 hours ago, the card sold for $1.86 million. Leighton came within $10,000 ten days before the auction was over. He basically nailed it. Leighton, what's. What's in. What's in your breakfast? What are you eating? How did you do that? How did. You know? Well, certainly a lot of luck, right? But, you know, all the joking aside, you know, just had a feeling, and it's a great card. I'm glad it sold for big money. No, I was not the bidder, the high bidder or the under bidder. I just wish it was like, for something substantial, like, you know, free college education for my son. There was a contest guessing the Jackie, and like, all of a sudden, now my son's going to school for free. Which, by the way, is not for a while, but, you know, try to think ahead. Jeremy. Yu-Gi-Oh well, no, that was, that's very impressive that you were able to come so close. I mean, literally within Beckett change at that level of, of what the card actually sold for. So, guys, I don't know that what that means. If anything, Leighton might have just gotten lucky or it means that you guys got to be paying attention to what the man says because he might have an idea of what, of how the market's going. Leighton, I, I will ask you, do you feel like you got lucky with that, or do you, do you feel like you had a, like, does your gut directing you that way? How confident were you in that guess when you gave it? Well, I mean, listen, it's really easy to play Monday morning quarterback, so I don't want to try to pretend, you know, I thought it was going to sell really well. So in my own brain, what does that mean? And if you remember, because I played back the clip before we posted it, you know, I asked a few questions. So some of those questions had to do with pop report. And even though pop report and, you know, a Jackie Robinson signed card isn't necessarily that relevant, I figured, hey, if there's dozens of them versus under 10, that's a different story. So once we identified not a feeling that it was only a handful, but once there was only, you know, recognized that there was a handful out there and the appeal was really great, it seemed like there was a great story being told out there. Led by Adam Gray know, and some others on Social. You know, listen, once again, a little, little, little luck. But I had a feeling with the way that the vintage market's been going and I've been seeing it just continually get hotter and hotter, at least in recent months took a shot. So every now and then the sun shines so right. A broken clocks right twice a day. Joe, are you impressed? Are you impressed, Joe? I mean, when I realized what had happened, I was like, Yu-Gi-Oh that's, that's kind of neat. Totally. Yu-Gi-Oh No, and I, I'm, I'm someone that doesn't, you know, I think of luck as a combination of intuition or synchronicity and, and knowledge. Like, I think you have a, a sense of the market and I'm gonna start calling you Rain man now. Sure, absolutely. If I can go to the blackjack table and make that happen for us, Joe, I'd be happy to. You will. Definitely. Definitely. Let's do it. So, Leighton national coming up. Are you guys ready on the just collect side to, to get over there? Is everything ready, merchandised, priced? You have, have you selected the wares that you're bringing for me and Joe to come and everyone else to come look at and, you know, drool? We're, we're almost there. We're packing up the final stuff tomorrow and then hitting the road. Troll either after. I'll be flying out Monday. And listen, it's an exciting time. You know, you want to do a lot of business, of course, you want to try to buy some cool stuff, but candidly, I just want to have enough good energy for the week to be able to Whatnot during the day, but then also have fun at night, whether that means going to, you know, various activities or going out with buddies. You know, it's an intense week. So, you know, we're not, I mean, at least for me, like, I'm not 25 anymore, so I'm trying to figure out how I'm gonna make it all happen. Well, one, one thing I would love, I know you're going to be vending, so I, I one-of-one I one-of-one I one-of-one pressure you late, but I'll pressure everybody else. Guys, Saturday at 3 o' clock at the National, I will be hosting Enter the Inferno on the main stage upstairs, the Burkus Memorial Stage. I would love to see as many of you up there as possible. It's going to be a lot of fun. We have. Our four contestants have been selected. We went through the interview processes. They are selected, they're ready to go. And it's going to be a lot of fun. We'll be on stage, myself, Scott Locke and Ed Snyder from Inferno red Technologies. And Dr. James Beckett, formerly of Beckett is and Sports Card Insights, will be joining us as well. So please join us. That's not until Saturday, 3 o'. Clock. By then, guys, we've all spent all of our money or mo. Whatever money you have left over. Go spend a Leighton's table a little bit later. Maybe after the Enter the Inferno show up on the stage. But come on up there, guys. It's three o' clock and it's gonna be, gonna be pretty, pretty fun, I think so I look forward to seeing a bunch of you guys up there. Okay, thank you for that, guys. So, Leighton, there was a topic that I wanted to talk about. Now, first of all, I. I have a topic, Leighton, and it's driven by Joe, so we'll do that, but I don't want to kind of, you know, jump over any topics that you might have brought, too. So we'll do this one. Did you happen to bring anything that. That was on your mind that you want to talk about that so that I know how much time to leave in the. In the segment? Oh, sure. No, other than, you know, all the. The talk of the national. No, nothing in particular. I mean, listen, I have lots of cards in my counter I'm working on. We could play show and tell for a half hour, but no, nothing in particular. We always. So let's talk about this then. Here's. This is a scenario that comes up every so often, guys, and we. We've talked a lot on the show over recent months and years now about consolidation. I think, you know, people go through it all the time. There's some people who only consolidate. They don't put any new money into their. Into cards. They only want to sell cards to buy new cards. And then a situation came up with a friend of mine. He'll. He shall remain nameless for now, where he was picking up a couple of cards that really went well together. And then a third card came up the. That went really well with these other two. And I was thinking about it when I was thinking like, this is a potential situation of forced consolidation. It's where you are literally forced to do a consolidation with your collection that you maybe weren't expecting to. Planning to. Maybe you weren't ready for it. And so I just want to dive into that discussion for a bit. And Joe, we'll start with you on this because you may have a little bit of insight. Maybe it's happened to you before, but what. How would that work for someone like you when it comes to that, when, you know, maybe. Maybe money's tight? Maybe the collection has already been whittled down to the point where you don't have a lot of things? It's getting harder and harder to find cards to trade up with. What do you do in that situation? Joe, let's. Let's start with you and Leighton. Hopefully you can jump in on this as well. Yu-Gi-Oh it's definitely happened to me and somewhat recently. I mean, you know, kind of curry card hits the market, and it's, you know, something I've had my on for a while. Yu-Gi-Oh it definitely can, can have you scrambling. I think the, the one thing I console myself with is that a lot of times when I'm, when I am selling off cards, I, I'm not someone that keeps a spreadsheet. I don't know exactly how much I paid for a card in you know, 2014 or. But I'm pretty sure that a lot of the cards that I got in, in like, you know, pre 2020, pre 2019 have done well enough where I can at least console myself that I'm, I'm. Even if it's a card that's a little hard to let go of, I'm at least taking probably a pretty significant profit. And then from there, you know, it's kind of like which of my children do I sell to the boogeyman? I mean it's, it's, it's, it can be hard. More often than not I've been leaning on the convenience of my Fanatics vault. You know, I have a fair amount of cards there and so I just, it's a combination of what I'm maybe feeling I can let go of. Sometimes it's connected to like if I'm getting into a bigger curry, maybe I'll, maybe I'll get rid of some lower curries, kind of keep the portfolio a little consolidated in terms of the player and, or you know, modern if you're getting rid of, if you're picking up something modern, maybe try and you know, trade off on some modern. So a lot, a lot of things go on but I, I'll tell you, Jerry. Jeremy, it's not, it's not a perfect science and sometimes I've made mistakes because I've been scrambling and kind of not wanting the, the savings account to dip too quick, you know, precipitously. Credit cards, you know, the ach transfer, all that kind of comes into play and, and I'm not, you know, I'm, we're talking like, you know, getting just barely into the five figures. We're not, I'm not talking like, you know, Cracker Yu-Gi-Oh Jackson type of stuff. I'm just talking about in my little world. But Yu-Gi-Oh I, I think overall you do, you do have to stomach a little bit of pain. Invariably if it's something significant, you're probably going to let go of something significant and you just, you just do the assessment of personal connection to the card. That's the ultimate metric for me is how, how connected am I to this card? How will I feel if I no longer have this card? Would this be a card that I could get back reasonably easily if, if I ever wanted to and that those are sort of the metrics that I use in assessing what to let go of. And can you ever just say no? Can you say no, I'm not going to be forced into this. I'm going to let the card go and not grab it. LEIGHTON has this happened to you? Have you had these discussion with, with clients, customers even maybe where you're you're advising them on how to, how to evolve their collection along the way? When you know, again, it's like some, some cards are so they may never show up again. There are like especially a one of one. Maybe you're maybe you're just collecting all of the Zebra fractures of a certain player or something like that and it's maybe he's not a, a player who's Maybe it's not LeBron James or Michael Jordan or Steph Curry, but somebody else. But if the card comes up, it's like do you have to grab it? At what point can we say I don't have to have everything? How do you, how do you operate that way? Leighton or advise this message is brought to you by Apple Card. Shave ice by the beach, a trip to the state fair and a throwback flick at the local drive in. They're more than just items to check off the summer Beckett list. There are also opportunities to earn 2% daily cash back when you use your Apple Card with Apple Pay. Apply for Apple Card now and use in minutes with Apple Pay. Subject to credit approval. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch terms and more@applecard.com this episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50 page restoration block. Or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it, ready to make anything online make sense. There's no place like Chrome. 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Joe, I really appreciated what you were saying. And the word that I wrote down was emotion. I think it's just interesting. If an outsider was watching this episode or this snippet, I would say to me, of course, these cards become much more valuable than almost all of us thought they would be. But notice how even though they're valuable, you reference Joe, how it's going to make you feel potentially giving one of them up. And I just wanted everyone to maybe take a moment to appreciate that, that this industry is worth a lot more money than it was when I was a young kid. And yet we're talking here, some of us adults, some of us young adults, some of us maybe teens that are watching either now or in the future. And it just goes to show you that no matter how much the cards go up, there's still inherently a love or a joy of collecting in all of us that is different, but yet it's the same. Because no matter what process, like Joe, I appreciate you mentioned five figures. Who cares? It's still the same thing. Meaning you're like, oh man, I really love this card. And of course, you know, you probably shouldn't go homeless to get it. And I'm not trying to be funny, you know, but get a little bit right, you know, you have to have that balance, meaning you got to channel a little bit of discipline when you're in this space, especially with the prices going the way that they are. And, you know, I don't know, we could continue to go on and on, but I'll pause there. That I thought it was really interesting because I face similar, right? It's not always about what a card costs. Like to me, when a card is in my budget, and I love it. Have you ever had another no brainer in your life? Like, there's so many things that are challenging. You're like, wait a minute, I can afford said card and I love it. That's awesome. It becomes more challenging. Jeremy, as you're alluding to, hey, I see said card, I love it. But it also happens to be a grail or something expensive. And I'm no longer able to keep my collection or my investment or, or you know, the, the, the collaboration of those two roads together. I can't keep it intact in order to go after something. I don't know. I think that's kind of fun, like meeting about being in the hobby, right? You can't have it all. There's very few of us that are Ken Kendrick that can just continue to write a check and buy anything or everything that we'd like. And I think that that's the fun in all of this journey. Yu-Gi-Oh man, it is. It's fun. You know, it just happened to me the other day, a card was presented to me that I could add to my collection that I would really want to add. And it was a significant card money wise. It's a card that I would really need to think about buying. And I started to think about, okay, maybe I could look at it like this. Instead of going into the bank account, I could go into my collection and find some cards to trade away for or to make it a big three way deal, maybe a, maybe a 15 way deal. Sell, sell 15 cards to 15 people, collect the money, give that to the other guy, get my card. And I was going through the, the collection. I'm like, all these cards that I was like, maybe, maybe I laid them in front of me with their, with the cards that they pair well with. I was like, I can't imagine my collection without these. I Goldin Right now I'm at a point where there's nothing in my collection that is like that. I feel like I can move, which is okay. It's okay that maybe that's the perfect place to be where every card in your collection, you don't want to move. So if you're being. For now, that's for. This is for. Let's. It's a significant amount, but it's the low end of my significant amount. Right. Like I. So if I had to spend four times my significant amount, so let's say my significant amount is $5,000. That's easier for me to cut a check for than $20,000. As an example, if I got to cut a check for 20, I'm probably going to find a way to force myself into consolidating because I don't want to part with 20 grand cash. I'd rather use cardboard equity. And that's going to be hard. It's going to be very hard to do when. Which makes me think of a line that Adam Gray uses all the time when he makes deals. Because this guy Adam only picks up one or two cards a year. That's how few transactions he does. Because his. He only uses card capital to buy new cards. So what he says is, and this seems, it sounds. It's easier said than done, but what Adam says is, he'll say, you know, I look at the card I want to. I want to acquire, and then I look at the cards I might give up and I. And I ask, would I rather have this card or. Or these cards? This card or these cards? And if I'd rather have this card, I make the deal that is so hard for me to put myself into that position and say, oh, Yu-Gi-Oh I could do that too. Because even if I look at my cards, I have now that maybe these are the ones that I've like narrowed it down to that I'm willing to move. I still don't want to move them, but do I want to buy, get this card even more. Like these consolidation, the way we've talked about it historically here on this show and people talking about it elsewhere, it seems very easy. You just take cards from your collection and you move them out for a card that you want to pick up. It's not, is it? It's not that easy for, for a lot of us, A lot of the time both these guys are shaking their head in agreement like, no, it is not that easy. Yet we talk about it like, Yu-Gi-Oh no problem, just consolidate, Just move other cards out. Depends what's in your collection. Also depends if you've done a consolidation recently or had to go through a process like this, which I've had to do. It's still. It's about 16 months out since I did the Joe Jackson maneuver, but I'm still healing from that. I'm still feeling the effects of that because I did have to make 330 very difficult decisions. And could I have made that 331st or 332nd? I probably could have, but I think I'd be kicking myself right now if I did. So any Joe, what do you think? Any more? Any follow up? Yu-Gi-Oh it can be painful for sure. And the thought that went through my mind is it's not even like you're looking at the individual cards. You're actually looking at your entire collection to see how things fit together and what may have become more of an outlier in relation to like, some of your main components of your Collection, your main lanes within your collection. So it's a holistic assessment. When you're digging in there and extract, you know, it's like going to the dentist, I'm going to extract this and extract that. And looking at what's, what's the repercussion of that in relation to, you know, what remains. And by the same token, what are you bringing in? How is that creating sort of maybe some new complementary relationships between other cards? So that's, that's one of the really, I don't know, I guess you could say, like psychologically fun aspects of, of being a collector. How about you, Leighton? Any further thoughts after my little rant there? Yu-Gi-Oh I was thinking about over the years work, the type of work I've done. So I worked for Leland's about 23 years ago and I was in consignments for just a little bit. And of course at Just Collect, we bought countless vintage collections over the years. And I was thinking about the emotion that's involved for some of the individuals. And I'm talking more so here about people that were not in the industry. Maybe they inherited it, maybe they collected in 1970s or in the 70s or the 80s, but it's been decades since. And the way you were talking about it, Jeremy, is how, you know, I was thinking it in regards to people are just saying like, oh, you just move in and out. And I'm like, yet I was able to meet with these folks and the cross section of time they had cards I was interested in. Thankfully I had the money to buy their cards. We found each other, but it only happens once. These people don't get another collection. So it's just interesting to see how much emotion is involved in the hobby from all aspects of collecting. Whether it be you're serious about it, whether it be a little bit more passive, whether it be you're completely passive, you've just inherited something. The Internet is an interesting place. You know, certainly you can learn a lot. It wasn't like this, you know, way, let's say in the 70s, if you inherited something, right. You would hope that maybe a local auction house might be able to represent your goods fairly. Today it's changed a lot. But even still there, I think that the emotions as strong as ever. And I find that, that really interesting. You know, I don't day trade or really trade stocks. I. I put money away for my retirement and for my son's, you know, education in the future, things of that nature. I'm curious other than the making money aspect of it is there emotion, like you're cheering for a company to do well, I. E. Go up. I have no idea. I don't know. But I just find our space so fascinating and I'm a precipice of really the Zebra bowl of card shows in the entire world. It's fascinating that this is what we're discussing as like, there's so much selling for so much money, but yet we're talking about this excruciating process in some cases of what can I potentially sell for my collection to, you know, to trade up or, you know, to get a piece that I've been looking for, Whether it be Curry or Clemente or. Or any other player that you're looking for. Yu-Gi-Oh the timing is good. We are a week from national and some people might be wondering. I saw someone put in the chat already, you know, I want to bring cards. I don't know what to bring. You know, you almost want to go to the national or any big cards, any card show that you plan to do some acquiring you. I mean, depending on how much money you have, either with you available, you might want to bring cards that you are going to be willing to part with. I think a lot. We know a lot of people do this. A lot of people have traders for the sake of having traders. I do too. But, you know, when it comes to buying a piece for the PC, it's kind of. Kind of. And I want to. I want to use PC money. I want to take cards out of the PC and like. And as I was saying before, it just gets harder and harder the more you. The more you curate. And I'm not, I'm not talking. When I say the more you, I really mean me. I. I'm not going to project this upon everybody. I'm sure some people feel the same way. But the more I curate my collection, the harder it is to continue to curate it from within. I can curate it and make it grow, but I can't, you know, I can't curate from. From within the inside because it's harder to do that. And I saw a couple, I saw a couple comments there about, you know, the, the impact that on me from the Joe Jackson move, where it was literally 330 cards for one. I'm not, I'm not hurting by it. Like, it's. It was a. It was, it was a huge thing. The reason why it has this lingering impact is because I don't like, it cleaned me out of cards that I had fallen out of love with, you know, and even Then I. I had to go past it. So it's. I'm very happy with that move. I Goldin be happier with it, actually. But now I'm like, where do I get more cardboard capital if a forced consolidation is presented to me? Luckily, I haven't had to deal with that quite yet. And for that card I was talking about, I just wrote the check the other day. I just had to have. I had to have the card. And I'm like, you know what? I one-of-one rush it. It's not like I have the cash available to pay for it. It wasn't like I needed to find the money. I'd have to borrow the money to buy the card. If that was the case, I would have. I would have probably made some tougher decisions and. And figured it out. So, Yu-Gi-Oh it's an interesting time where we're leading up to the National. Yes, Joe? Well, there's. There's sort of, for me, two different paradigms, right? There's suddenly realizing there's a card at auction that I really, really want. And then I totally agree with Leighton. It would be good to have discipline and patience. And every once in a while I do. But more often than not, I kind of know pretty immediately, oh, this is something that I'm going to need. The other scenario is what I'm dealing with right now. There's not a card like that, but I am going to a place where there could be cards like that. Like, who knows, maybe that perfect blairy dobie leaf PSA1 will be available and it'll be staring me in the face, and I better have the right amount of cash to make the deal happen. And so right now I'm plucking things that I think I'd be okay with so that I can have a little bit of roll, you know, and feel a little bit like a kid in a candy shop with, you know, what I'm imagining is probably at least the day, the first day or two, you know, quite a few offerings that might get me excited. Absolutely. I want to. I want to just run to a couple comments here, guys. Sammy Thunder, who. Who was. Who I was kind of responding to there. He. He asks. He Here were all 330 cards, ones that. That I had fallen out of love with, or was it a portion of them? And Sammy, great question. I had to give up cards that I would rather have not given up. But the way I did that was I gave up cards that were really only valuable because of the plastic they were in versus the card that made it easier for me if I had a, a low pop PSA 10 of an 80s Gretzky, let's say, which I did, and I could get 12 or 15 grand for it, but I could go pick up a raw copy of that card for 75 or a PSA 8 copy for 200 or 300. It's like that's the kind of card that I was willing to move and I, I miss a few of those cards I gave up, but not many. I'm, I'm very happy with the, with the overall move. Sammy goes on to say, I think if I had to give up a lot of cards to get one massive card, it would have to be cards that I feel like I'd have another chance down the road to pick one up. I think that's a great strategy. I think a lot of people use that one when they do it. And David Chase says one way to gain card capital, you could find high I appeal lower graded copies of the same card. Yu-Gi-Oh David, that's our secret. That's what we do. We go for the high I appeal low grade. Let's not tell everybody about that. Although I guess if you've been watching this show for any amount of time now, you, you understand how we roll. Thanks for tuning in and being a part of the sports cards live community. Don't forget to like subscribe. Subscribe and most of all, keep collecting more great content to come. Sports cars is a lifestyle. Hello. Look what TJ Maxx dragged in. The Devil Wears Prada 2 is now streaming on Disney and Hulu. We are digital, we are downloadable, we are streamable. 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