Why Digital Collectibles Are The New Sports Card Boom (NBA Top Shot + Ludex)

Welcome to the Trading Cards and Collectibles podcast on the Radcast Network. From chasing grails to calling bluffs and going inside the hobby, are you ready to collect? Let's get at it. Here is your host, Ryan Alford. Hello and welcome to Trading Cards and Collectibles here on the Radcast Network, your home for the hobby. Yes, it is indeed. And the hobby crosses many spans, many galaxies, from the physical to the digital. That's why we got my good buddy here, Jacob Eisenberg. He is the head of community of NBA Top Shot and Dapper Labs. What's up, brother? Ryan, thanks so much for having me. How you doing? I'm good, man. Hey, talking collectibles, digital, digital, you name it, I like to talk it. So I'm, I'm, I'm happy as a beef. Awesome. Yeah, likewise. I'm, you know, obviously carved out my lane as a kid as the baseball card collector in the friend group, and I'm so lucky to have been able to continue that passion and that hobby my whole life. And now getting to work on the next frontier of collectibles in the digital space has been, you know, a dream come true. And it's been really awesome to see the entire space really develop over the past five years. It's a fun space, man. It's booming. It's doing well. You've got, you know, old money, new money, kids, adults, people like me that had it on the shelf for, you know, 25 years, coming back into it with my boys. It's a fun time. And, you know, I talked, I get, you know, the pleasure of talking to guys like yourself that, you know, get to make a living doing, you know, things that they love in the collectible space. And I don't know, it's not lost on me that we, we get to do things that, I don't know, as a kid, you'd have gone that, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah. And again, I, I need to emphasize to your audience, I love trading cards. I, I very much subscribe to the belief that the future of Top Shot is not in contrast with Trading Card. I think they're going to grow together. And I, I don't think you have to be a trading card collector or a Top Shot collector. I think you could be digital, physical, you can do it all. But my good friend Gary Vee would tell me this is. And not for exactly. Let's get to the good stuff, baby. Like, we got some drops happening on November 5th, Wednesday, we are having our first drop of the NBA season and we are excited. There are a bunch of reasons to be excited. We can start with the obvious, right? We as NBA top shot are dropping the first ever digital collectibles from Cooper flag, VJ Edgecom, Dylan Harper, Cedric Coward. It is a loaded rookie class. If you're a follower of the NBA, you know how touted this class was coming in and guess what, they're, they're not only living up to the hype, they're exceeding the hype. And NBA top shot has excl, has partnerships with Cooper flag, vj, edg, Yang Hansen, Cedric Coward. A lot of these top rookies we're partnering with, leading in with them, training, trying to be part of their day one experience. And what that means is you as collectors are going to reap the benefits because you're getting custom inscribed signatures on these moments. So in Cooper flag's case, there's going to be a one of one his rookie ultimate. It's a highlight reel from his entire rookie debut game. He had a double double in the game. That moment is going to be in the cases that are dropping tomorrow. There are only a hundred cases dropping. They're going for 2,500 out of a pop and those are going to be super, super in demand because you have a 1% chance if you get a case, there's a 1% chance you're going to get the Cooper flag. And just to kind of give your audience maybe some perspective, the Victor Wembanyama, one of one rookie ultimate from two seasons ago that went at auction for $145,000. So there is a steep kind of demand for these rookie ultimates. And Cooper flag of course, by far better than any prospect from last year's class. So it's very exciting to kind of have a research rookie class like that. So there are cases similar to trading cards. The cases contain a bunch of packs and within those cases there are also what are called case toppers where you get some guaranteed inserts in the case. So if you buy a case for 2,500 bucks, you get 10 packs plus a bunch of case toppers which are guaranteed inserts. Now at the more accessible price point, we have the packs themselves which contain six moments. Those are going for 50 bucks. In every pack you're guaranteed at least one rookie debut moment. These rookie debuts are minted to 1000. So all in across rares commons, legendaries, ultimates, Cooper flag is going to have three fewer than 1700 total collectibles in his rookie season on top shot and there will never be another Rookie moment from Cooper. Flag coming out later. Once the 1700, I think it's actually 1682. Once these 1682 are released, that's it. And there, there will be a little bit of mania about that. And of course it's not just Cooper. You've got the VJ edge come factor. Scored 34 points in his debut game. The most points scored by an NBA rookie in their first game since Wilt Chamberlain in the 1950s. Yang Hansen, the most touted Chinese prospect since Yao Ming. Of course, in the crypto space, China is really important. In the NBA space, China is really important. There's a lot of reasons to be excited about this drop tomorrow. And then in between the packs which are going for 50 and there are going to be 5,000 of those packs available and the, the cases where they're only 100 and those are going for 2,500, there are also boxes and these boxes are going for 250 bucks. They contain five packs and two box toppers. So guaranteed inserts in the boxes as well. And those are going for 250. So if the packs are a no brainer at 50, then the boxes are even more of a no brainer because you get five packs, same price, but you're getting two additional guaranteed insert box toppers. This is the only place to collect and trade off of players. First buckets. And the players are watching the moments back and getting me excited about it. So that's the true top shot. That's right, exactly. Jacob, I know your time is short. Where can everybody get their hands on this stuff digitally and learn more about all of this? Yeah. So the pack marketplace will probably be your best bet at that point. Just like in trading cards, you can buy a pack and you could flip that pack later. So pack marketplace is going to be ripping. We anticipate. If you're not able to get on primary because we do anticipate a fast sellout here, go to nbatopshot.com go to the marketplace. You can sort by the packs marketplace and find the packs. And what's really awesome about digital is you get that transparency. So when a, a big moment is pulled from the pack, you, you know it and you can actually go to a pack, what's called a pack listing and you can see all the hits that still have yet to be pulled from that pack. So if you want to kind of speculate on buying 10 packs at a time and, and you know, deciding what to do with them as other people are ripping them, you know it's truly a deflationary asset because as more packs get opened, there are fewer remaining unopened, just intuitively. So Definitely go to nbatopshot.com Drop is happening Wednesday, November 5th. We're doing drops. Yeah. The drop tomorrow starts at 3pm There are going to be some pre order windows that are about half hour to an hour in length for the cases and the boxes which will allow everyone to be able to put in orders. The packs will be available on a first come, first serve basis. And after tomorrow, the next big drop is going to be December 3rd and that's going to be a big one as well. More top top plays from rookies and by that point we're going to have some one of ones coming out from some NBA superstars as well. So it's good time to get in. As you were saying, Ryan, and I'm so grateful and appreciative for you having me on, Jacob. It's been a lot of fun. It's gotten me excited. I know everybody else will be. Congrats on everything. I look forward to doing this again soon. Thanks so much, Ryan. Anytime. Looking forward to it. The Dodgers won the World Series and we already know that Ludox has the world's greatest scanning app. They're so predictive. They even have the World Series locked in as the champion. That's just how predictive the software is. That's how smart it is. Actually, you know what? I think it's B Brian Ludden intelligence. It goes to show you that the app is keeping up with real time behaviors of what traders and collectors are doing based on what's happening in the market. Collectibles trading market sales are reported up 101% year over year. Those numbers are just baffling. But this industry keeps getting bigger and bigger. It just does. It's fun. It's fun to watch. Hello and welcome to Trading Cards and Collectibles here on the Radcast Network. Brian and Ryan coming to you here every week. Brian has his, his tip of the cap. He's about to go hit the golf the round white ball around and supposedly it's not going to go too well. But I'll let Brian give commentary here live before he goes to the course. Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be a fun one playing Austin Country Club, which is super exclusive. A lot of the PGA guys are on it members there and I'm not good at golf, man. I had five back surgeries. I played baseball, which I'm, I was. And I probably played 25 rounds in my life. I'm more of a fisherman than a golfer. So I feel like for me this is like such a wasted experience. It's like I want to come do that, you know? Yeah, you could. You should come down here, right? Get on your private plane and come down here. I will land right in on the ninth fairway. Avatar Mac there, right in the middle of the course for all the rich people to fly in. I've heard. Good. That's a sick course. I know some speed. Others are members there, play regularly. So I'm jealous a bit. But you know, you'll have a good time. Get the beers flowing. That's true. Early enough. Early and often it's called. I call that the swing oil. Get your back loosened up. Golf isn't a lot of fun if your back hurts. Though I will admit that I've had. When I've had back pain before, it's like the last thing you want to do. Actually had the same exact surgery as the Tigers had. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Well, he's a pro. Like one what night? Less than one percenter. You know, like athleticism. Mortals like you and I that have those kind of surgeries probably don't ever like, get back to swinging a club the right way. No. And I don't think he's running like a tech company or mogul. Like he's actually working every single day. Yeah, exactly. It's been a great week for sports. Unbelievable. World Series finale. I don't know. It was awesome. Brian and I have talked, but, you know, my four boys and I watched that game seven and was just like, you know, it rekindled a little bit of me for baseball and because it's probably our, you know, in the Alford family, low on the totem pole, but it was US and 26 million other viewers. A big deal. Yeah, that was it. That game was insane. I watched it with my kids too. It was like every pitch mattered. Both teams balled out and you know, just feel bad for the Canadian national team. They had it. And then it goes back to the big old Dodgers, which, I mean, they. I couldn't believe it went to seven, but I. I just thoroughly enjoyed that game. I did too. It's a great series and you know, it actually, you know, while I think the baseball game is in general are a little slow, especially during the regular season. I don't know. But I sort of appreciated the pauses a bit even during gain set. Like just the. Almost had to catch my breath, you know, like. Cause it was kind of edge of the seat, the whole, I don't know, last three or four innings. And the Dodgers just, I don't know, it sort of felt like, is Canada just going to always be second to the U.S. sorry if you Canadian listeners out there. I'm just kidding a little bit. But it kind of felt like there was this inevitability that LA was going to win. I don't know. For me, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would have been their second World Series. And then I think the last time the Maple Leafs won it was like in the 50s or 60s. So I mean, it would have been like pretty, pretty interesting to see that their MLB team has two world championships before their, their national. The team that's like the most popular in Canada barely wins at all. And it was the unsung heroes that kind of won it. You know, it wasn't Ohtani. I mean, Ohtani had a good series overall, I guess, but like just, it was like the last guy, like number nine batter. Like, it's like it goes. Yeah, just how it goes. I mean, in baseball, it's like the unsung heroes, who's going to step up, you know, who's going to play above their, you know, punch above their weight class and clutch. It's all clutch. It's all two out hits. You know, it's defense. But you're right. You're exactly right. Those guys were, those guys were not the ones that were on Vegas had hitting home runs to win the game. Exactly. Collectibles show is where you'll find all of the channels and learn more about what we're doing. And ultimately, hey, we want to hear from you, do Case Hits. Collectibles show wants you to send in your favorite pulls of the week. And here's the difference. This isn't about just value. Hey, we want to see some $10,000 hits. Had a couple of those myself a few months back. But it's not just about the value. It's about what you're collecting, what means something to you. Share a story, share a video of you holding up the card that you hit last week that was your favorite player and you nailed it. So case hits at Collectibles Show. Send in those videos. Videos. I want to know the stories. We're going to bring them to life here on the show. We're going to do a segment each week once we get rolling and get some videos in where we share that on the show with us. We want to feature you on Collectibles Show. The good news is on the football side, all my teams Won the Bills, took out the Chiefs, I. E. The Death Star. And it was like, you know, we captured. We crushed the Death Star. This is like Star wars stuff. You know, Kansas City Chiefs are kind of the Death Star. You know, I was rooting for your bills for sure. Jacksonville one. Had to be. You had to be. Oakland. I still call him Oakland. I'm not going to call him Las Vegas. Oakland Raiders. Oakland. Las Vegas, Louisiana. Raiders. My boy was sick, but he took him down. Trevor Lawrence. I got my. I'm rocking my Jacksonville hat today, so go Tigers. It's a rough season for Clemson, but vicariously through all the pro players, I'll. I'll. I'll support all the Clemson. So then. And then the Bears. My Bears. Your Bears. Hey. Pulled it out in the strangest game I think I've ever watched. That was. That game was. I mean, I was watching with my boys and we went from watching the World Series get up the next day and watch that. I've never seen a football game like that. But I guess what happens when you. You have like two terrible defenses. I mean, the Bears are decimated. The Bengals are, I think are just bad. But maybe they should do that. Like, maybe take like a defensive player off the field because it's way more exciting when these points go up. Was it 40? Clemson lost a Duke in football. 46. 45. And was. It was something similar. What was the final like in the Bears? Something similar to that. Like 47. 47. I mean, it was very tight and. But back and forth you had defensive. It's weird watching the Bears suffer. I mean, suck on defense. I, you know, I know there's been years, but you always just sort of think of them as, you know, at least defensively sound. And I know it's the injuries and everything else, but the Bengals have always kind of sucked the last three or four years at defense, so that's not a surprise. But it was a wild game. Yeah. The Bears are like the opposite of what they normally are. Their offense puts up points. Their defense can't stop anyone. So. But, you know, a wins. A win in the NFL. That's 47, 42. Bella saved the day. News in the 40s. That's a. That's a strange score for the NFL. You know, you don't see games like, I mean, wanting that. Probably the only game of the year where both teams score the 40s. Like, it's not typical. But anyway, they won. You know, also one J.J. mcCarthy came back from injury and they took out the Lions, man, 27. 24. Yeah. Coach O'. Connell. Every time there's a quarterback there, they get better and better. I mean he was with Mac Jones. He was with Daniel Jones was there. The guy playing for the Seattle. Sam Darnold was there. Yeah. AJ Looks pretty good. Like he's. I think he's just like the quarterback whisperer. Sam Darnold's tearing it up. I mean, unbelievable. I mean it's a single incompletion in the first half. And then he was like, I don't know, this QB rad. He's like 140 or something. I don't know. Like he's, he's having like MVP caliber. Seattle looks dangerously good. Like I don't know where. They came out of nowhere for me. I didn't expect it. But they're nasty on defense, highly competent on offense and anyway really surprised me. Yeah. Yeah, they're, they're, they're a well rounded team for sure. The. Who else? The. The Panthers. The Carolina Panthers. Did not think. I definitely didn't see them beating Green Bay at Green Bay. Sign me up is shocked. You're shocked. I was shocked at the uniforms the packers wore. Those things were the uniforms I've ever like you play football when you look badass. You play badass when you look like a. Like they look like fools out there. And I mean I was like, you should lose this game just because of those uniforms. They were ugly and they did. But so leading us into what's our LUDX scans of the week we got what are our trending players that we got going on this week? I'm sure it correlates with some of the stats and things we've been seeing in the. The pros. Yeah, I mean we got, we got two pieces good, good pieces of information. One what we did is we went back to the beginning of the season and took three Dodgers players and where their cards were trading the beginning of the season where they're trading now. And the pitcher, Yam Yamanado. Yummy. Yeah, Yamanado. Is that how you say it? Yeah, I struggle with as well. So he's close enough. So he was. His card was trading 330 bucks. Last sale was over $1,000. Wow. So you invested him in early. You're up 218%. And then the closer, I believe it's the closer is started at $35 and now he's 115 and that's 200 over 200% again. And then Kate and Clayton Kershaw, just based on his retirement and you know, the likability of him. He's up 183%. So I mean if you think about that opportunity. World Series bump. Yeah, the World Series bump. Yeah, no doubt. And then, and then we got like the, the football and you know, these all make sense to me this week. So Jacoby Brissette, those cowboys are bad, but they, they increased 123% and he went from unranked in the trending players to 123. Brock Bowers, you saw that he played against your team. He was nasty. He's up 82%. He went from 123 on the most the trending players to 56. 56. Yeah. So. So. And then the final, final one is. Let me see here. Rico Dowdle is what I'm seeing on my notes. Yep, go ahead. You do it because my computer. Yeah, I know you're Brian. Look, this is real time. We're. This is real. He is in the hotel room and willing to even get on with you before he goes. One of the greatest country clubs in America. And yeah. So Rico dowdle went from 37 to $70. So you got a double. Double pretty much doubled his, his prism silver. Rico Doubter played at South Carolina, the Gamecocks. I mean Clemson. We don't really care for the Gamecocks, but that's where Rico Dowdle played. And. And so scan increases he went his training player from 149 to 76. So if you had preseason Rico Dowdle in your top 100 scans, call me surprised. Like. And he's a hell of a player. He is a good player, but I did not see that coming. He's having a heck of a year and looking good. Yeah, that's crazy. Thanks for the. You know, that's why you and I are good teammates. Yeah. Hey, that's what it is. It's Brian and Brian. You know, we look after each other. The. But that's your market movers on Ludx. So get out there. Hey, we're giving you these trends and they've already made jumps. But we're giving you information and knowledge so that if you're looking to make some moves, you can make them again. Because I think some of these guys look like it's not just a, like a one week trend. It looks like, I mean Jacoby Brissette is surprisingly. I've always thought he was pretty competent as a backup. But it's going to be interesting with Arizona. What happens? Um, I don't know what it is like Kyler Murray is an unbelievable talent, but it always just seems like it's something. I don't know what it is. I don't, I don't pretend to know if he's malcontent or cancer. I, I, I don't, I don't know enough now. I don't have enough knowledge. But it just, something's just not right there. I don't know what it is. And Brissette coming in and having the numbers he had. Look, Cowboys suck, but you know, especially their defense. But still, Cowboys should be beating Arizona's backup, right? Yeah. And instead Brissette's having Big Year. D's having a big Year. And we're giving you the trends before Danny Dimes. Hey, if you want to respond, hey, D. Danny Dimes got beat by Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh beat up on him. But maybe they have formula ah, so fast. I think they're the Indianapolis has too many players, too many good guys. There will be a bounce backs. So I'd buy off those Danny Dimes this week. They probably dropped a little bit cause everybody's going, oh, the real Daniel Jones is coming back. No, I'm not saying he's a perennial every year all pro, but he was a, he was a number one draft pick, you know, top draft pick for a reason. And I think he's closer to what he's been this season than people give him credit for. So we'll see. But all but all of this is in the Ludx app. You can see these trends and hear them right here on tcc. All right, so we started open this pack we've never seen. This is a white player Pokemon. We'd never seen. The first card being, I think an illustration rare. So this is clearly a God pack. So we're admittedly coming in. All right, go through each one, put one. Boom. Now. Wow, This is awesome. I've never seen, only never gotten one. How many packs have we opened? How cool is that? Every card that is awesome. Wow. Every card that is cool. Look at that, everyone. How many packs have we opened and never gotten one? So just wait. I never opened. As soon as I opened, I was like, I saw that. I'm like, or this guy. And I was like those white flare. How cool is that, dude, I just thought people made that up. Now we've got up Brian our bracket from the World Series. We talked that LA won the title and lo and behold, what do we have on our our LUDX championship bracket. The Dodgers won the LUDX trophy and they had 6,000 more scans than the Yankees. And that is. That is nothing, man. That is nothing. That's like half, what, like two hours, three hours difference of scans during a day or something. Honestly, it's probably like, it's probably like 10 people scan. More like scan. Like 10 people just decided to put their Yankees cards on. And that's really what it is. 10, 20 people decided they, while they were watching the other teams put their Yankees on or I'm sorry, the Dodgers on. So it's pretty cool that the next championship and the dot. The Dodgers won the World Series. And this is just, I'm just telling you, like we already know that Ludx has the world's greatest scanning app. They're so predictive. They. They even have had the super bowl locked. I mean, excuse me, the World Series locked in as the champion. Right? Yeah. That's just how predictive your the software is. Yeah, I mean, that's how smart it is. We take our. The biggest. It was actually, you know what? I think it's bli. That's Brian Ludden Intelligence. It's baked into everything at Ludx. The less I, the less I use that. But it's worked out that way. It makes sense. It shows you that again, Ludx is not just predicting trends, but they're showing their trends in real time. Because it makes sense. Right? LA is a big market, but LA doesn't win the scan challenge if they aren't advancing. It goes to show you that the app is keeping up with real time behaviors of what traders and collectors are doing based on what's happening in the market. It is. It's awesome data. Like, I'm a, I'm a numbers guy, I'm a data guy. And it's really cool to dive into the data and to see, you know, to see stuff like what you're talking about. It's just really interesting on human behavior. And when you have enough of it, enough of the data, like critical mass, you can really see a lot of great things. Like we can see the top basketball. Basketball product come out. That's that like they scan a lot of those. But then when Chrome comes out, let's see what happens there. You know, it's like we'll be able to tell people what are the popular products, what are people scanning, you know, what's the best value. So we're going to do a lot of cool analytics, you know, coming up in the next, you know, in 26. We got a couple of headlines before you let you go, Brian. The collectibles market is Continuing to grow, says collectibles trading Market sales are reported up 101% year over year. Sports cards are up approximately 48 so far this year. This is from research by Circana Research. That's amazing. And, I mean, that's big. I mean, a double 101 saying that, right? I'm not the math guy. You are, but I think that's what that means, essentially. Yeah. That's insane. The trading card. Yeah, it's Pokemon and everything else. And then sports card specifically, up 48%. I don't know about you, Brian, but I think indie industry would take that and run like, oh, yeah, we're up for it. You go to the boardroom, we're up 48%. You're getting a promotion, buddy. No, that's insane. Those numbers are just baffling. But, you know, this industry keeps getting bigger and bigger. It just does. And we're right. The show's right in the epicenter. Ludox is in the epicenter. Like, it's. It's fun. It's fun to watch. I'd be interested to see. Maybe we could pull this for next week. Because, you know, a lot of the last of Panini's stuff Mosaic has released absolute. I've seen some of this. A lot of the new, you know, this year being the last year of NFL for Panini, wondering. I bet you the scans are probably trending up because those new sets are coming out. I. I've been seeing, like, the hero cards kabooms and different things downtowns getting posted with more frequency now that all the breaks and different things are happening with these, the final releases of Paniniums. I'm sad to see the kaboom go with a licensed player. Yeah, I don't know what they'll replace it with, but they'll figure something out over at Tops. But, I mean, someone's gonna. Every time I was in Panini, I got to visit my friends at Panini a couple days ago. And every year this time, because every four years, when the World cup comes around, there's always rumors about someone buying Panini. And again, this. This. This year, same thing is top. Spying on Fanax said they're not. There's private equity looking at them. I mean, they hold that license to FIFA, which is a valuable license, you know, and that's what. That's their value. So, I mean, if it was me, I mean, I would sell it, you know, in anticipation. Anticipatory, you know, revenue from that. Because after that, I don't know. I don't Know what they got? Yeah, I don't either. But I had DJ Ski on the show yesterday. He's got a company called the Realist and he. He's done some amazing things. Do you know DJ Ski? Have you heard of him? Yeah, yeah, I know him. He's great. He's great guy. Super nice. He did the. The seven, 1970s, like the. Some of the artistic stuff for TOPS, like 70. Project 70. Excuse me, Project 70 card for baseball. And as does a few other collabs and different stuff. He was awesome. But we were talking about the opportunity like you and I said was just some more of the, you know, blending some of the more artistic things that Topps could. If needs to lean into some of that to not just have the same old, same old, you know, the player leaning, you know, against the bleachers or whatever, you know, like. Or making the action play, but bringing more of that artwork into it, you know, both for collectibility and just interest. Yeah, yeah. And it's true. Yeah, it's. It's. Anything that we could add verticals in this industry are going to help us. So. Yeah, being. Some of these artists are just doing some great things, some really cool things. Cool, man. I know you got to hit the course and we got the data in. We got it in. This is. Hey, this is the CEO in action here. This is how it goes down. He's nothing. Nothing gets in the way of getting it all done. Nope, it's. It's, you know, part of the job. You just gotta keep. Keep grinding, Keep grinding. Let's talk about. Finally, before I go, let's talk about the giveaway for the Z. Yes, you go ahead. You're. You. You can explain it better than I can. Yep, we'll do. As a final call. This is your final call for Total Scans. Since the World Series, the whole playoffs began. We've got a total that has been. And we're going to give everybody one more week. And so if you're listening, go into the comments on Wherever you're at, YouTube, Instagram, Spotify allows comments within the the platform. Wherever you're listening or watching, we'll be tracking those comments. You can send DMS to the accounts. You can send a DM to the Lux account. You can send the DM to me. Ryan offered. You can send a DM to Collectibles. Show any of the platforms that are easily acceptable accessible from Collectibles. Show the website www.Collectibles.Show any of those platforms where we can get your total guess of total scans and It's a big number. Just. I'm just. I'm going to give that hint. Brian, is that hint all right? If it wasn't all right, I've already given it. Yeah. Give a better hint. You know, it might. The number might have seven digits. Yes. We're leading to water here, so we need the closest, and we're not doing the. You can go over whoever's the closest. You can be a few over, a few under, whatever. The closest to the total number of scans. You've been paying attention. That's a. Brian just gave the best tip of all. I said big. He went. It might be seven figures. There you go. So this is doable, folks. This is doable. Go in those comments, go in the dms, any of those places, and you get the best case in the business. Zion trading card case. It's unbelievable. My son has one like it. Got the gorgeous Ludx logo on it. You'll be proud. My son is. He sleeps with it. It may or may not be his pillow some nights, but I think that because he don't want his brothers, like, steal one of his cards. But no, it's a badass case and brought to you by our good friends at Zion and, of course, ludx. Cool, man. We'll go hit them good. Lots of numbers today. Lots of opportunities for people to get in on that case. But good luck on the course. Thank you, my man. Always a pleasure. And we'll. We'll be talking to you soon. And I'll, you know, I'll let you know if. If I'll let you know how I do next week. Exactly. Tune in for that. Hopefully the back is still in order. Tip of the cap, you know, go easy. You don't want that hurting. Next week I'll be. Not a hotel room. Exactly. Hey, guys, you're gonna find us Collectible Shots show. Go to the website, full editions. Audio, video, social media. And of course, hit the App Store. Download the Ludx app, the best scanning app in the business for your digital collection. Lut looking cards up, going to ebay, searching values. All the best features. Ludx within the App Store on any platform. Hey, guys, we'll see you next time. 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