Will The National Embrace TCG & Non-Sports? with Sports Cards Nonsense | The Hype #446

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We got raffles and we're here to talk about the whole show and what to expect. How you guys doing so good now that my name came from? Yu-Gi-Oh Jesse was very excited about that intro. Doing great. I'm not as good as the first intro, but I'm fine still here in protest. I'm gonna tell you, I'm excited for this party again because I don't know if I said two words to we man last time. I'm going to talk to him. Were you sick last year? No, I talked. Oh, no, you. Oh, you were early. No, no, no, it wasn't. It was that GLP1 stuff. Got to be real bad. I've learned some lessons since last year, so I'm really. No juicing before the party. Yu-Gi-Oh Now it's all Taco Bell, so I think we're. I've played it sounds like a good plan. It's a bathroom situation. But this year it's different, though, because the last few years it's been at the same place, but now it's at a dueling piano bar. It is doing piano bar. So we'll have a show for the. For the last two hours where we're also going to do giveaways and, and all sorts of stuff. But Yu-Gi-Oh dueling piano. I'm. The moment I heard that, I'm like, I could not be more in on this. How much singing will Cody do over under two and a half songs? Well, well, you know, this is breaking news. So it's more of a show rather than. It's more of a. Of a. A group effort. Than it is a single, a performer. And so there's no karaoke is really what I'm trying to say. There's no karaoke, no kar. So we'll have to get to scratch that itch somewhere else. They basically, they've seen our videos from last year and they're like, let the professionals do the same. Absolutely not. Doug freaking rocks the mic with like, not our generation. Hip hop, like, rips it up and then freaking Cody is like Freddie Mercury's cousin. I don't know. He's a non hiv. Freddie Mercury who plays with cards. Yu-Gi-Oh You know what? A living, non infected Freddie Mercury. Please, Michael, please, please, just. It's not our podcast. I don't know what the audience is like. That's just facts. That's the first time the HIV's been Tribute on the show. I can't dispute that he's living well. You guys are really good. It's. You have very talented people on your team. So I'm glad it's not happening. I feel like I got roasted the one time I did it because I was like, I went up there to have fun thinking, oh, oh, this is a good time. We're gonna be. I'm gonna do a song that everybody enjoys and then someone with real talent goes up there and just absolutely dominates. I'm glad. Shows up in a crab suit doing under the Sea and you're like, what are we all. What are we even doing? Oh, I forgot. It's when that stupid teenager one-of-one it too. Yes. What was with that kid? You could tell his parents had money too. Does he still break with you? He's like a frequent customer. Yu-Gi-Oh I think really good. He's a great kid. I've always his career. I think he does like a podcast now. He's my favorite, actually. I loved him. Yu-Gi-Oh So you guys, do you have a booth at the national too? They're with us. No, we're with you guys. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh See that. Okay. We're doing live content next week. So this week, what are your expectations of the national? Like, what are you wanting to get out of it? Just to see people, you know? Like, I feel like, you know, Fanatics Fest was more of just like, run here, run there. A lot going on and I didn't get a lot of time to just sit down and talk to people. I'm just hoping to meet a lot of customers, not only at our party, but walking the Fleer And that's my main goal. Do you go there for the business aspect of it, like to buy and Sell or are you just more like, you know what? I can probably do better deals online or with people I know than doing it here at the show. Because sometimes I do think like, oh, I think if anything there's going to be higher prices at the national as opposed to maybe something I could get done in person or online. You know, I usually kind of wait till Sunday for that. I feel like, you know, I'm not going to rush myself into buying something. I'll see if those are still available, like on Sunday, make some offers, get some inventory in the shop. Okay, well, Yu-Gi-Oh that's a, that's a play. I don't, I, I'm, I want to go. I'm bringing cash just in case. Because that's the only time I think, like, oh, I can maybe do a better deal than I could online because I'll have maybe get the volume too. That's the helpful thing. And I'm trying. I'm going after like some cases of Disney stuff, you know, like stuff that's not. It's probably going to be harder to find. I find those in the bathroom. There's a guy in a stall hawking Disney cases. I have lower expectations because I know, like, that's so hot right now and I don't know if I'm going to be able to get any of it. But Yu-Gi-Oh that's what I'm going after. Speaking of that, did you guys hear Gary V's take about that? He feels like in the next five to 10 years that sports, non sports will be matched price wise with sports. What do you guys think on that take? I did not hear this, but you know, I'm a big like wax or singles. What was the. Yu-Gi-Oh I didn't hear it either. I'm assuming demand and price of singles. I think it was how I as. How I, I took it. Here's what I would say. Like right now you guys crush us in price because there's so much less of it. Well, you don't have releases every single week. I mean, there's, there's things that crush in price. Like. You mean wax? Just even the singles, though, there's way less out there. So I feel like your pricing does. Well, here's my. I guess if you had the exact same amount of releases of sport, I feel like it'd be way too. It would flood it. The market's anywhere near that. Sure. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh So in five years, do I think, I mean. Well, this release of Marvel Chrome and Disney Chrome is like the first time they've really Comparative leave put out product to the degree that they do with a sport product. Like two in one week. Yu-Gi-Oh well, I mean it was just the amount that they produced of it. It's still not as much, it's not nearly as much as what the sports are, but they greatly increase it because demand is going up. Prices have been going up on a lot of the older stuff and so Yu-Gi-Oh I could definitely see it. My, my thinking is they're doing the same. Like back in junk wax era, there were sports cards and there were non sports cards. And you saw how many different sports or non sports sets were out there of every movie and TV show you can think of, every, you know, poster or collectible they had cards of. And the difference is they didn't have anything to, you know, show scarcity. They didn't have autographs. These things that have also been very transformative on the sports side. But they did the sports side way before they started doing the non sports side. So I feel like, oh, well, now they're just doing it on both sides and we're just further behind. So give it a few more years. It continues to grow just like the sports side has. I think there's enough fandom and the fact that you've got IPs that are, you know, a lot of these sports that we talk about, baseball, basketball, football, these are very big in the US and yes, they're growing and in some cases they're big in other countries. But a lot of the IPs we talk about are international already and they're gigantic. And it's like, well, there's going to be fans already there. So I don't, I totally see it. And to the point of that, like on Friday there was a case of 20, 23 Topps, Chrome, Disney or Tops. It was Disney. 120. Yu-Gi-Oh Sold for $78,000. That is like the highest non sport sale of any modern product that I know. I, I don't think there's anything else that compares. And if that's the case, I, I mean that I think we're seeing right now, this moment, like the last month or two. This is like the beginning of. Oh, I need to be aware of the non sport market. Yu-Gi-Oh Is there, I mean, on that same topic, Jesse, is there a card you're out there looking for that's non sport? Yu-Gi-Oh What perfect crap is on your sweetie? Well, I actually am looking for a buzz Lorcana PSA 10, like one of these. There's like this iconic card. It's I think I think it got down to, like, 3K at one point now. But the PSA 10 is, like, 5,000, and I want it for. I'm doing this thing with Logan Paul and Gary Vee on Thursday, and it's a TCG thing I want to do. Like, I'm gonna get a necklace. Like, where you hold the card on the necklace. Like, look at that squeeze that. I'm not saying. I. I listen. I just. I just want to have a car, and it's gonna be on a necklace, and I'm gonna sit next to Logan Paul, and then I'm also gonna dye. Dye my hair blonde and chill the crap out of a market I don't know anything about. And then Gary's gonna tell me I'm special. And then we're all growing, and in five years, Gary's gonna be as tall as me. So, one-of-one I'm gonna do those things. It's just. He's so mean. It's so mean. I just feel bad. We come on this podcast, I ask a yes or no question. You give a diatribe about Disney's going to the moon. Oh, God. They want content. They want to know. I mean, I do have an iconic in my collection. I have the Moana one. So I don't know what Moana is that a person or a movie? What is Moana? You have kids? Like, you. You. He knows of it. I don't. I don't know. Okay. It's like the Hawaiian. Is he old enough for Moana yet or. No, Definitely. I don't know. Actually, two and a half. Well, he'll be three in September. Yu-Gi-Oh Maybe it's a movie or. That's the character. It's like one little scary monster, but, like, it's fine. Okay. I've been playing rock, like, desensitized to scary stuff at a young age, so I'm not the best guy to ask on this. Yu-Gi-Oh I think you're fine. But that's the. The whole. I mean, I don't let him talk to Jesse anymore. I talked to him all weekend. He's having a great time. But, Yu-Gi-Oh the. That is the key to all of this is I think there's more awareness. The fact that we're even talking about it right now means that there's a reason to talk about it. It means there's more people entering land the plane. What Lorcana's done. They introduced the Iconics in, like, what, four sets ago, so there's only been eight of them, and they're, like, one in 30 cases. So they've brought that kind of like, dude, I didn't know you were a Lorcana guy. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh dude. Chase to Lorcana, which was missing because the level before that was the enchants and that was like one per case. So it wasn't as special. Right. So now they only release two. Two Iconics per set. And I got lucky. I pulled one. But they're really hard to pull. They're like a pop of like 70 or 80 right now. Yu-Gi-Oh it's insane. There was a guy who reached out to me. He's like. Because we talk about it on the hobby nonsense pod all the time, all the non sport. And tcg. Lorcana has been a big topic of conversation because of the iconics that have basically caused that IP or that TCG going from dying to thriving, I would say at this point. And it is by far like one of these. Like if you find an iconic, it's a huge deal. And that is another reason why I think, like, oh, we are becoming more and more comparable to the sports card market. Granted, TCG is not a non sport for many people, but for others it is. And if you found one Iconic, I'd say your odds are fantastic because I've heard people ripped cases of this stuff and still haven't found one. So Yu-Gi-Oh very cool. Now I know, Mike, you were chasing those. What is that? That? That Upper Deck. That one Upper Deck football set. Did you ever complete that? Are you still looking to build that? I Bounty out still. Nine years and counting. Sepia authentic. Sign of the times. I need Terrell Davis. This is the year I've still never seen the card in person. Yu-Gi-Oh I can't say that I think I have Drew Brees in my PC. That's the only one from that. From that one Big rookie from that one. Yep. It's an awesome set, Jim. Beautiful set. So there you hear it? Have you put it out there in the Internet and no one's. No one. No one has it. I have posted about it. We just tell the AYS one too. This is a different audience. And the Tom Brady heiress. Those are my two like white whales. Remember the planet set last year? The Genesis at Tops replaced Pluto with Eris, which is a dwarf planet. I believe Pluto's back now, didn't they? It is back this year. Yu-Gi-Oh But I've never seen the Tom. I have ever. I have the other nine Brady's in an SGC 10. I need that card. I don't think I've ever seen that that card existed either. Genuinely did not. Yu-Gi-Oh That's such a rare card that I don't even, I don't even know how many are even expected to be made. What are the odds per on that one? I think they said 3 to 5 is the print run. Yu-Gi-Oh No one has seen. Crazy. Correct. Never been on the Internet. Nothing. Even the Terrell Davis hasn't sold in like two or three years. There's no wreck. I think it's just, I think you have some weird Zebra collectors. I guarantee you that's just like on some random old guy's table at the show. Like you would just have to find it. This is to me the part of the Net you were talking about going back to when you were talking about like buying and what you're doing what you can. The National. The fun of the national is finding things you just will never find anywhere else. Like, I personally love collecting World Baseball Classic stuff. I remember finding 06 Derek Jeters and Griffeys and all that. And like stuff I had not seen since that set was out. So that's one thing I'll be hunting for. I always am hunting for that stuff. But that's to me the most. Yes. Maybe there's some sort of premium on some stuff, but like there is the feeling of if I don't buy this now. Yes. When the hell else am I ever going to find it, you know? Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Absolutely. Love it. Yu-Gi-Oh That's the treasure hunt, I think you used last week that word. What are you guys looking for? 06 baseball classic. You just told you. I'm always looking for World Baseball Classic. I think I, you know, I was actually just text texting with Doug Plaguins today. He showed me an amazing PSA 10 OPG Platinum Macklin that he just got back and it just made me think. I, you know what? I know the price is going to be expensive, but if I wait any longer on getting some Macklin in my collection in three, four, five years, I'm going to regret it. Because then the price of entry is going to be to a point where I'm like, I just can't like with some of these Macklin's. Like, I feel like now is the time to strike. Even though I know it's going to be, you know, not the cheapest search for Macklin stuff. Yu-Gi-Oh I second that. I'm definitely looking for not only Macklin's for the shot, but Macklin for my PC. Because I think once October comes around and the Sharks had a really good Draft. They had a really good off season. So, I mean, I'm not saying they're gonna one-of-one the Stanley cup next year, but they're on the right path. And Macklin's on the COVID of, you know, NHL 2027 as well. Kids. I mean, I never seen so many kids wear a San Jose Sharks jersey. At Fanatics Fest this year there was like at least 10 of them, which is, you know, to see one in the wild anywhere but here is insane. Like, nobody watches the Sharks. So that just shows you we're not a hockey town. So. Yu-Gi-Oh So, you know, there's a lot of hype around him around our area. And, you know, I'm still looking for some Buster Posey draft autos. I've got the gold. I don't know if the red might be a little bit rich to my blood. I probably one-of-one find it, but you know, I'm always looking for those low numbered Buster Posies. Was he like an 08? What was pose Good knows. Okay. We just had a random Buster Posey come through the ebay show last week. I got a box and consignment. I thought it was like a 50 card and I was talking to Eddie. Thankfully it's a. It was a 2010 Topps Chrome rapper redemption Refractor. Nice. It was either a PSA9 or a BGS95. End up being a few hundred bucks. But I was like, Yu-Gi-Oh I was shocked. I had no clue. Yu-Gi-Oh I remember that. That it was 2010. Was it 2010? Yu-Gi-Oh You had to send in like two boxes worth of rappers and then they sent you a pack and there was a bunch of rookies in there and that was. It was all rookie based. And I want to. I think I have a 9, 5 in my collection somewhere. But then they have the green version, I believe as well. So. Fun, fun way. I guess that's how Tops track sales back then is sending these rappers to see where they're coming from. And they haven't done that Redemption. It's a mystery. Like you sent them in though. Yu-Gi-Oh Not like the library. Okay, well, we talked about this on our show today. There was not supposed to be a rapper Redemption with Tops this year. I don't know what they're. They're doing something else. But I don't, I. Again, we don't get the details of what it is, but Yu-Gi-Oh I don't know how that's going to work, but they'll give away something and you guys are the, you know, main media sponsor for the show, so. That's. I mean, that's exciting. My guys are out there doing all the news. Right. So what are you guys most excited about, like, to cover at the National? I will say the exposure they've given us been pretty good. Like I was telling Jesse, like, we can't get a hold of, like, we have no. We're not anywhere on Logan Paul's radar ever. So Jesse doing like the Logan Paul thing, we're going to do the Upper Deck thing with some, some players on the MJ auction that's ending Saturday. It's just been cool, like, getting put in front of some of this stuff. So, Yu-Gi-Oh it's good. But, you know, I, I don't. I don't know what else. It just seems like they're going to shuffle a lot of stuff our way, which is great. I feel like this year, more than any year, the calendar is much more filled before we get there. I feel like when we get there, it's like, oh, Yu-Gi-Oh hey, let's go do this or go do that. And it's like, okay, well, you know, we've kept. Kept some things open, but now I feel like they're every day there's at least multiple things on the calendar to be done. And they. It kind of worries me where it's like, oh, man, I don't know if I'm gonna have a ton of time to like, just go do hang out with people I see at the show or go walk around the tables and things like that. So it'll be interesting. This year is going to definitely have a different feel, I think. Yu-Gi-Oh And I mean, I think the national, the gentleman from the national was on your show and I loved what he said about, you know, not really competing with Fanatics Fest, given the kudos and the flowers to Fanatics Fest. And I know this is the question that was probably last week's question, but, you know, Fanatics Fest versus the National, Honestly, I think they're two different shows and they can exist forever together. Do you guys have that same sentiment? Yu-Gi-Oh I think we both think. Yu-Gi-Oh Because my thing was like, I think you have. The vast majority of people don't care about cards yet go to Fanatics Fest. Yu-Gi-Oh right. Everybody loves cards. Who goes to the National. Well, so I think it's a perfect. And you're going to one place to look at cards and treasure hunt. You're going to the other one. Just maybe see cards. But to do like the activations and to meet Cooper flag walking around, which is great. I think they're both Great. Yu-Gi-Oh I do. I think they're both. They need more space though. I know. The World cup again, Stupid people kicking a ball. Screw everything up. I'm glad next year they're moving it back a month because I do want more downtime in between two and three. Because it was two. I Goldin do this again. Two out of three weeks. Right. Well. And. And you think San Diego ComicCon was in between. If people wanted to go to that. Because I really wanted to go to that and I will. My plan is to go next year to that show. Is it always San Diego? Different Comic Cons across the country, but that's the big one. And so it's like how does anybody. I mean, I'm sure there actually were people probably went to all three or planning to go to all three. I don't know how you could do that any like multiple years in a row called Absentee Parents. That's exactly it. Well, here's the thing too. The Fanatics Fest and the national are. Are two similar shows, but obviously they are very different in some ways. The fact that Fanatics Fest is much more, I think, focused sport heavy. Not just sports cards, but just sports heavy. I think you could have the national translate into this is a card show as opposed to just a sports card show. Because right now you've got Fanatics Fest, you've got national, but then you've got like these Collecticon things that are popping up everywhere and they just got bought out by like a major corporation. And you're going to see more of those shows and that's where you see all the Pokemon and TCGS and non sport cards at those shows. If the national really wants to differentiate itself, it needs to expand even further into some of those areas because it needs to be a trading card show in general. Like I just want to go there and find cards of all kinds because I don't think the FNAX Fest would ever really lean into that side of things. There's always going to be people who bring them, but you're not going to that show specifically for that. It feels like the most untapped potential because, well, one, we. We're going to have a presence out there that will have some gaming stuff going on during the national on top of a lot of other breaks and stuff that we'll be having going on with ebay and in Upper Deck and all that good stuff. But I think too you run into the same problem because I think next week is, if I'm not mistaken, I would have to check with our. Our gaming guys. But, like, it's the biggest gaming tabletop, gaming, TCG convention of the year. Or it's. If it's not next week, it's like the week after Pokemon Worlds is coming out. Pokemon World is at the end of August. So you do, once again, sort of similar to what happened here with Fanaxis International. You do have this, like, convergence of all these massive events. But you're right, Jesse. Like, it's like. It feels like the biggest blind spot. It feels like the most obvious. Like, how do we make this even bigger? Because it does feel like every single year gets bigger and bigger. How does it even. How do you even get to a point where it keeps growing? And that's really the way to do it is by embracing the TCG community, embracing Pokemon as Lorcana, having its moment right now, and bringing that into the fold here. Can I just say this? And I think you could agree with this. I think you could get rid of some of the sports card tables that are set up there, because I feel like there's so much overlap in some areas. Like, some of it is just, like, especially. And I hate to say this for all you vintage lovers, but that vintage area, where it's just like, guys with the old brown newspapers and, like, these Zebra old mitts, and it's like, I get that there's some people that are into it, but it's. I don't know, it feels like we're becoming. The national is becoming more and more synonymous with cards. And it doesn't mean you can't have memorabilia there, but it's the same time. Some of this vintage stuff, I just, like, I just try to get through it as fast as I can to get to the areas that are maybe a little bit more modern or at least have a good mix of modern and vintage versus, like, just the overlapping. Like, I Goldin tell you any of those tables are different from another one. That's just a bunch. Yu-Gi-Oh But vintage, that's like me, though. I can't tell a Pokemon table apart from any of them. Sure. Because I don't care. Vintage guys do, though. Like, oh, that one's for my 50s, high, high, uncommon set car. This one's from my. So, Yu-Gi-Oh vintage guys love that. I'll be honest, if I want to grow the National, I would just get a bigger space and add more people. Exactly. There's like a thousand guys on the freaking wait list. I don't think that's possible. Like, I feel like this is one of the one it feels like a very large venue. I'm just trying to think of like. But I'm saying if larger can we get. Right. But if you got a bigger venue, you could add more people. Sure. There's no shortage of people who want to go or vendors who want to sign up. The list has hundreds on the waiting list. Yu-Gi-Oh I don't want sports. I like that. It's the one thing that is strictly a sports convention, but it's not strictly a sports convention anymore. That's what I mean. The problem is, I GUESS it's the 45th year, right. So when they. When they, you know, sat down and decided what kind of show, they have sports collectors in the name now. Right. So it's like, how would you even get trading card. You know, be like the NTSC or, you know, and. And you would just. You would keep NS or ncss. Is that what it is? The national nscc, the national media. So that you would change. You would just have to change the S to something else. Leave it. That's what I'm saying. Why can't we have one that just ours? You. Well, I mean, I think that's what it all. Most card shows are. I. No, not anymore. Well, these days, more and more. But those are like specifically Pokemon shows. Like. No, I'm saying sports card shows are now a huge influx of TCG stuff. I guess that's the decision that they have to come to. It's like, do we. Is. Is it worth it to change the entire, you know, direction and the. The vibe of the show to potentially reach out to new customers, survive, or are you going to alienate all these people who have been here for years and years because they like that? It is a. I mean, even right now there's still TCG on the show Fleer but that it's still a vast majority. Sports collectors. I don't know. And correct me if I'm wrong because I've only set up in the breaker pavilion because, you know, you have to sign up the year before and get in a draw to. To know, you know, if you're going to get a booth on the main Fleer Correct me if I'm wrong. It's all based on loyalty. So there's. There might be guys that have been there for 45 years. They're in the front. That's why you see the ven. Vintage guys, right? That's right. So, you know, some of the corporate guys have came in and moved a little closer, but I think it's just like a. Like kind of like A loyalty, legacy thing with the National. And I say this because I think of how Collecticon has been slowly adding in sports guard card booths at their shows. And it's like you think of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars that are going into all of this. It would be foolish for a corporation that is now going to buy them out and their job is to make more money. They would be foolish not to expand it into more sports and then more tcg. It's just. They're going to do it. Why? I would just think the national would do it as well. But then again, I mean I, I do also can. I can appreciate the fact that, oh, this is our sports mecca show. Like it's not meant for everybody else. But we've already seen so much like dilution of that by adding in Pokemon people in there that now it feels like. Well, it wouldn't be that crazy to add more. I agree. Yu-Gi-Oh I know. I'm getting at myself because it's what next. So we haven't even got to this year's show, but next year it's in Chicago one more time. And then we got Detroit the year after. If I'm not mistaken. That's where I'm like, I guess I'm curious what the space is there. If it's a bigger space, a potentially bigger space where maybe that's where they have it circled of like if we do this major expansion where we bring everything into the fold, that might be the spot to do it. Maybe. I know Detroit is a little bit bigger in this place because that's. And that's like brand new. The whole Downtown of Detroit by the time we get there is going to be like unbelievably brand new. Yu-Gi-Oh it's wild. You saw like Card Cards HQ is opening up a shop up there. Oh, it's just funny like, you know that that was like planned as far as like they knew where the national is going to be. They're going to put that shop. Plus real estate value is like Zebra cheap still. You can get in again major airport. That's one of the things about all of these shows is like we talk about like, well, can you find a place that has bigger convention Fleer space and Yu-Gi-Oh I'm sure you can, but can you find one in a city where you can get easily in and out of hotel rooms? Hotels in a safe place as well. That's where it's like a lot of things, the factors go into making this like just an overall great show. And they've found something really good in Chicago. The Chicago thing works. That space is great. You don't have to. You don't have to drive anywhere. Like, you can walk to 40 restaurants right by O' Hare and fly right in and out. Yu-Gi-Oh I'm a fan. I. I agree. And I would, of course, jealous or, you know, I would like to have it in Nashville, but I just don't see how they could. There's no world. Yu-Gi-Oh it's expensive here, too. Like the hot Downtown. No great spot, though. I'd love to have it there. Amazing environment to have it, I think. Also vital for Detroit, too, especially in this hobby. Lots of casinos in. Very important. That's something they never talk about. Every single national I've been to is always near a casino. Like, there's actually almost every card show. Card show is near a casino. Where have you been? Chicago. Chicago. Oh, Cleveland. There's a reason Atlantic City stayed in the. In the Loop for so long. You know, I was gonna say, I'm willing to try any other than Cleveland, so, I mean, like, you can send me anywhere. I'll be, like, right over Cleveland. So I loved Cleveland Downtown, though. Awesome. Yu-Gi-Oh but. But the convention center, like, they just said, like, we way outgrew it. It was. It was way too much. Yu-Gi-Oh that was. But, Yu-Gi-Oh the Downtown, surprisingly, like, unbelievable, actually. Remember the Downtown? I think I almost got kidnapped or robbed or something. I was, like, filming while it happened. It was like a guy just pulled up to me. It was like 1am in the morning. Put out that vibe, though. You do. You put on. I was waiting for my chicken wings, and this guy's just, like, trying to talk to me. And fortunately, I was filming the whole thing. You would have loved it. one-of-one I'm happy for Chicago this year and next year and Detroit will be very interesting to see after that, who knows? And what do you guys got coming up for shows? I know you guys are doing a ton of shows. Can you guys leak any guests? So make sure people tuning in for some of the podcasts at the show. I mean, we have you guys on one day, at least one of us or both of us. I gotta look at the schedule. We got Mike and Mike Ruben and Mayhem. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh that'll release. Are they doing it Friday? We're releasing it Saturday. That's Friday at our booth. So it's up to us to release it. Right. So it'll come out the next day, though? Yu-Gi-Oh I'm guessing. I think so. Yu-Gi-Oh Mike and Mike are coming. Thursday is the Logan, Paul and Gary Vee. Thing you're doing. And we're doing like morning shows each day, but that's going to be. Do we have guests actually already planned for that or is that more of like we find guests other than. I've got co hosts for every day. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh So, Yu-Gi-Oh just stuff every day and then hopefully like transactional stuff. And then we're like. Our big thing this year, too is like trying to put out stories of the national. Okay. If you've been here for 15 years, you want to share like an eight minute segment, come on, and let us kind of film it all and clip it up and kind of release a best of the national through the years type thing. Oh, I love that. That'd be great. Cody will be on the list. Oh. Dominating karaoke, Followed by me getting carried off the stage by a man far too large and strong. Do you remember that in Atlantic City, he just Beckett me up by the shoulders. He was very gentle because I was throwing money at everybody because I had a few cock. He literally just Beckett me up by. I unhooked the string of the barrier for my. I need an air guitar. Obviously. He literally just Beckett me up very gently and just moved me. No, sir. You do. No, I'm trying to remember what song you sang because you. You killed it. I'm just trying. Boston. That's right. Boston. Oh, gosh. Atlantic City one. Yu-Gi-Oh The Rose. Something like that. The Rose. That was a co. It was good. They were like, Yu-Gi-Oh Real long line. I was like, here's a few bucks. And somebody next to me like, you know, those were hundreds. I was like, I sure didn't. I sure did. That was where I went wrong. Yep. Whoops. Gave you the VIP treatment there. You can do any song you want. It's not much cheaper than what the COVID charge was, if I'm not mistaken. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh Good old. I'm all set with that city. Oh, Yu-Gi-Oh I don't need to go back. Oh, well, Yu-Gi-Oh I think. I think we're all good. Well, we're Zebra stoked to be out there with you guys for being there on at your booth. The setup looks amazing. Cannot wait to see it. And then obviously 50027, by the way. 50027. Yu-Gi-Oh I saw the early. I think the Facebook post and the booth looks amazing. Yu-Gi-Oh Yu-Gi-Oh They actually did a really good job. And you guys have free reign. Like I said. Just Brandon's got the schedule, whatever. If you guys. I know we got stuff together, but anything you want. Content wise man. Like. Yu-Gi-Oh We got a few guys lined up. I think Saturday we're gonna be recording a lot of stuff with with guests around the hobby, content creators you guys are familiar with. So that'll be a lot of fun and of gonna be great. I think we're even at the booth. We're giving away a Maclid Celebrini PSA10 young gun. So come on by, swing by, see the whole SEN crew and you can see us as well. It's gonna be. It's gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see you guys there. Yu-Gi-Oh fun, man. We're looking forward to it. Yu-Gi-Oh Thanks for coming on and we'll see you guys out there. And tune in to all the content that SEN has. If you're not already part of their Facebook group, definitely tune in there, follow them on Instagram and you'll. You'll be in the know. If you can't make the national, tune into the content. And we'll see you guys next week on the Hype.